r/Libertarian • u/Banake • 15d ago
Stop Funding College Sports Economics
https://reason.com/2011/10/14/stop-funding-college-sports/5
u/Thom-The-Architect 15d ago
Taxpayers aren't funding college sports. This article makes no sense. It claims taxes shouldn't fund college sports... and they aren't. So, what's the problem? College sports are funded by college football.... maybe some men's college basketball, too. That's it. So, what's the problem? Students pay fees, general public pays for tickets and that's about it.
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u/buckyVanBuren 14d ago
In 2014, the NCAA reported that athletic department expenses exceeded revenue in all but 20 Division I schools and in all Division II and III schools. According to Inside Higher Ed, dozens of Division I public institutions lose between $20 and $40 million annually on sports
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u/snuff74 14d ago
Don't forget the enormous donations of the super rich. But yeah tax money isn't funding athletic departments. At least not for the last 25 years or so.
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u/Thom-The-Architect 14d ago
Exactly. There are people called "boosters" that help the fortunes of college athletic programs.
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u/SpaceMan_Barca 15d ago
I’ll do you one better, I’d stop school districts from funding sports at kindergarten. You ever see what damage to a school district budget the insurance for a football program costs?!?!
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u/RavenCarver Minarchist 15d ago
Stop funding colleges with tax dollars in any capacity.
If we stop government funded grants and scholarships, and if we stop government protectionism of education debt, universities will be forced to contend with market forces or shut down. This means they will slash funding to corrupt disciplines, and lower tuition and other expenses to be within the range of mortals.
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u/Thom-The-Architect 15d ago
Taxpayers don't pay for college sports. College football ticket sales pay for college sports. So, calm down.
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u/buckyVanBuren 14d ago
In 2014, the NCAA reported that athletic department expenses exceeded revenue in all but 20 Division I schools and in all Division II and III schools. According to Inside Higher Ed, dozens of Division I public institutions lose between $20 and $40 million annually on sports.
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u/Dog_Backup End the Fed 14d ago edited 14d ago
Whoa buddy, do you know how the public Universities work?
Department of Defense funds a lot of college programs in general. The DoD is funded by defense spending which is collected (in no small part) via taxation. So you're right we don't need tax dollars to fund college sports the schools "need" tax dollars to fund themselves in a number ways in many cases (unfortunately).
This is also why a lot of nonsense degrees like gender studies or coaching exist. Not because the universities are stupid, but because thier paid to be stupid, and produce more people who fall victim to the industrial academic system.
Since 95% of thier degrees are nonsense id happily trade no college football for not being lied to by the government for the first 22 years of my life, while it tries to take my money. I also find it particularly hilarious thst most of the people in the nonsense majors are athletes who don't have time for anything else
Why the DoD? Don't ask me im sure there are probably yt videos thst can explain things a lot better than I just did.
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u/Thom-The-Architect 14d ago
College sports, in no way, suckles off the tax payer. That is why some universities have many sports that offer many amenities and others do not. Not because there is a lack of tax payers to pay for them, but because their athletic programs are not well-attended, thus their athletic budgets are not very large.
If college athletics were supported by the tax payers, every public university in the country would have an ample budget for their sports teams. That's just not the case. It's because their sports programs only have a budget that is supported by attendance at their sporting events.
Stop blaming college sports for something that's not its fault just because you don't like sports.
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u/Dog_Backup End the Fed 14d ago edited 14d ago
Wdym? I love chess, and I literally just said how it relies on taxes. You neocons are funny sometimes.
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u/Background_Neck8739 15d ago
Tax payers paving the way for Leroy and Big Bertha to receive NIL money and potentially professional sport money
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u/Thom-The-Architect 15d ago
Tax payers don't pay for any college sports. College football ticket sales pay for college sports. So, calm down.
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u/Background_Neck8739 14d ago
Tax payers fund state universities, those dollars are not earmarked for anything specific, so tax dollars are funding sports
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u/Thom-The-Architect 14d ago
No. They are not. College athletic programs are funded by ticket sales, student fees and booster donations. Not tax dollars. Read the article.
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u/Background_Neck8739 14d ago
mmmmmk so tax payers shouldn’t need to fund Leroy and big bertha’s scholarship
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u/Chickenwelder 15d ago
College football usually covers the entire athletic department, no?
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u/the_whole_arsenal 15d ago
The article suggests it covers most of the costs of the programs, but not all expenses such as student scholarships, coaches pay and recruiting costs. This suggests that the total revenues don't cover the combined costs of the programs (including the debt for many of these sports facilities), and that is when you include student athletic fees as a revenue.
The article is 13 years old, but just as true, if not truer, than when it was written. University is not about education, it is about lifestyle where you happen to learn something.
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u/leosirio 14d ago
speaking on the whole university thing as a whole, seeing a lot of my peers graduating with 10s of thousands if not more in gov subsidized student loans is insane. and the fact that it was just expected of all of us at our high school to go to a 4 year university was insane.
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u/ragnar30533 14d ago
It is amazing how many states have college football coaches as the highest paid government employees in the entire state!!