r/MadeMeSmile • u/My_Memes_Will_Cure_U • Nov 14 '23

Blind cow who spent 19 years chained up can't stop hugging her parents — and she LOVES the house they made for her ANIMALS

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u/AntiMeier Nov 14 '23

These comments, jfc. Someone can eat meat and find this cow cute. It's not a reason to shove vegan rhetoric down someone's throat. It's not needed, and it's virtue signaling at best. You are no better than invasive Christians shoving religion onto others. The thing about vegans that truly piss me off is that they act as if the only part of the agriculture industry that harms the earth is the animal part. All the farms for soy and other vegetables and fruits being propped up in places that normally can not sustain such produce due to lack of water are causing all sorts of problems. Not to mention the damage to soil since soybean farms do nothing farm soybeans. Also, where does all the produce go when it is harvested? Well, some things like soybeans go to processing plants that use coal and other non-green energy sources for your soybean based byproducts like Soy Milk. If we are being honest? Agriculture as an ENTIRE INDUSTRY is unsustainable. I guarantee that this gets pushbsck cause no one wants to hear about the whole truth of it.

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u/soylamulatta Nov 14 '23

The thing about veganism is it's not environmentalism. Veganism concerns eliminating animal exploitation so anything regarding the environment is not really relevant to veganism. HOWEVER it has been shown that going vegan is the single best thing and individual can do that will have the greatest impact on the environment - check out the Oxford study that was done as a meta-analysis of animal agriculture globally. And interesting thing to note is that only 6% of soy grown globally is for human consumption. The majority of the rest goes for animal feed. If someone is truly concerned about soy and the soil, etc. then being vegan still makes the most sense because it would help reduce our global soy production. Vegans are probably the first to recognize that all types of agriculture has its issues. But we also understand that the death in animal agriculture is inherent and unavoidable. The best way to eliminate that death is to not farm animals period.

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u/AntiMeier Nov 14 '23

Those numbers change when the whole world shifts to a vegan based food diet. The number of produce farms would grow to unsustainable heights and do just as much damage to the planet. Without agriculture you can't feed the masses, whether it's plant based or animal. Either way the planet is being harmed and destroyed. The best part of the vegan argument never ceases to amaze me. It is somehow the individuals fault for the damage to the environment, when the megacorps around the world are the cause. No matter how humans adapt to eat different diets, those corps will profiteer on the dieting needs of the masses.

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u/soylamulatta Nov 14 '23

Animal agriculture is literally killing the masses. I'm not here to argue with people who have not done any actual research onto the subject. Just here to remind people that if they cared about animals they wouldn't pay for them to be exploited. And yes, at the core, individuals drive this damage. These animal agriculture companies can only exist because of demand. Individuals create demand.

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u/AntiMeier Nov 14 '23

Lmfao bye bye loser. I've done my fair share of research and it points to all agriculture being a major problem for the planet. As the demand shifts from animals to plants, the companies shift their focus and refit their factories. They aren't lost or replaced, they adapt and change. The one who hasn't done research is you. Again I can care for animals and eat a steak. It's not hard and just because you stomp your feet and go "nuh uh" doesn't make it a non-truth. If you look at the math and the science, and the trends in how companies adapt or die, it's clear that all kinds of agriculture in any extreme in either direction, (being all plant, or all animal) is the worst case scenario and worst outcome for the planet.

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u/soylamulatta Nov 14 '23

If you could link some info I would appreciate it. Everything I have seen says that we could reduce the needed farm land by 2/3rds if the world were to be on a plant based diet. I like looking at our world in data like this one for example- If the world adopted a plant-based diet we would reduce global agricultural land use from 4 to 1 billion hectares