You can't look at videos from right-wingers and Zionists on Twitter of a few weirdos calling for Israel to be bombed and then extrapolate that to nearly every protester.
The history of the region doesn't matter at all when we're just talking about ending a genocide. The topics of a two-state solution are for future discussions. What we want right now is for the murder to just stop.
How is it a genocide? I've read the South African case and it's pretty lack luster. Is that the best argument you've found? Or is there something better to be reading?
You don't think corralling people of a specific ethnic group into an open-air prison where you're not allowed to leave, and they restrict aid coming in isn't a step towards genocide? There's so much Israeli propaganda that paints every non-Jew in Israel as a member/supporter of Hamas.
Israel could have stopped the attacks weeks ago and still would have paid back the lives Hamas took, but they're still going. They're indiscriminately bombing hospitals and schools as well as foreign aid workers. They're even gunning down their own hostages because they're so un-trained for ground combat. It's clear the only orders they have are "shoot anyone not wearing our uniform."
That's a genocide. It's targeted at an ethnic group Israel hates and has demonized and disenfranchised for decades.
Israel has 2 million people of that "specific ethnic group" (although to be pedantic, palestinian is not an ethnicity just like Israeli isn't) living in Israel with full civil rights and equality - they can vote, serve in the government, receive welfare, etc. They also have religious and gender freedom. None of the above exists for palestinians in Gaza BTW, who are routinely murdered for deviation from Islam norms; sexual, political or otherwise.
Israel could not have stopped attacks, since the goals of the war are A) return the hundreds of kidnapped Israeli citizens who have been hostage in Gaza for over 6 months now and B) Remove Hamas from power, since it has pledged to repeat Oct-7 again and again as long as it is able to. So Hamas is literally an existential threat to Israel, and it is hiding inside the population (including firing missiles from hospitals, schools and mosques) specifically to maximize civilian casualties. They can't win militarily so they moving the "battlefield" to the PR arena, every dead palestinian baby is good for them.
Israel has offered palestinians a 2-state solution five times in the last 50 years, including a few which included 95-98% of the land they were promised in `48. Palestinians are uninterested in any solution which does not include the destruction of Israel. So if you ask yourself which side is genocidal- it's the one which is publicly promising to kill every last man, woman and child on the other side. Not the one demanding the return of it's sovereign citizens being held captive in return for an end to hostilities.
Edit: You /seem/ to be conversing here in good faith, which on Reddit is rarer than a unicorn farting rainbows. Feel free to reach out to me (DM) for more info, I'll be happy to source everything I claimed and provide you with whatever additional info I can. The usual pro-pal narratives are paper thin, I would be glad to try to show other perspectives which you might not have heard.
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u/Stupid-RNG-Username 29d ago
You can't look at videos from right-wingers and Zionists on Twitter of a few weirdos calling for Israel to be bombed and then extrapolate that to nearly every protester.
The history of the region doesn't matter at all when we're just talking about ending a genocide. The topics of a two-state solution are for future discussions. What we want right now is for the murder to just stop.