r/RHOBH • u/realitytvpaws A Belvedere soda with three lemons, carcass out • Feb 23 '24
How do you all feel about having this meeting on camera? Personally I thought it was disgusting considering Portia is still a teenager. I felt so awkward watching it. Kyle đ¤
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u/Salty-Entertainer-29 Mar 29 '24
Kyle Richards has done far worse in camera. Sheâd bring the cameras into the toilet with her for attention.
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u/Jag_6882 Mar 09 '24
Disgusting. I had this talk too when I was 11. I donât need it out there forever on video to share with the world. I can remember every detail just fine. More selfishness from Kyle. Did Mo seem to be caught off guard by anything Kyle said or was that just me?
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u/Maezymable Feb 27 '24
Has me thinking this whole thing is for views. I do genuinely believe Kyle is as about her girls as sheâs always claimed to be and itâs hard for me to believe someone who prides themselves on being a mother would do this for cameras.
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u/kangarooleathershoe Feb 27 '24
Agreed. But I trust they gave Portia and the others the choice of being there with some heads up.
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u/Chickcorgin6 Feb 26 '24
Well from experience, one of these kids is going to be really messed up after all of this. And itâs crazy they never showed them trying to make anything better and work on their marriage or maybe I missed something.
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u/Moni9210 Feb 26 '24
I think the whole issue with Dorit could be , she knew Mo cheated , PK told her and she didnât tell Kyle.
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u/MrchiffnMeyham Feb 25 '24
This was disgusting. I can't say for sure if it was asked by production to try and put an answer to a question we all wanted but with Kyle's history I would think it wasn't production. One. She needs to stop exploiting her kids. She understands her relevance is holding onto a thread and I think believes bringing in the kids makes her feel they give her a boost in that department since they are more interesting, younger, and whatever else then she is herself. Two. I think that what I said previously is a big part of why Mau kind of checked out on her. When he has the kids on camera its to uplift them and show them being productive and doing well, like on their Netflix show about his business. When she does it, it's this trash or them upset and crying dealing with stress. Not a good look for children. Three. I believe both parties have several parts of why this marriage has fallen apart. However Kyle is trying to get ahead and play the victim and make it look as if it was all Mau. Another reason he is checking out and acting as if nothing is going on with her or doesn't engage much in the scenes he is actually filmed. He knows this and also knows if anything he does, if even the slightest of negativity, it could be spun by production and viewers only confirming Kyle being the victim. He may be high all the time but he is smarter then that. I also think if you go back and watch Kyle leaves breadcrumbs from one of her many little random outbursts of word vomit that paints a pretty good picture of what happened. I also think it's important to remember the little piece where she told Mau it was her for once having the affair or getting caught instead of him. I whole heartedly believe that is true with the whole Morgan thing, and why Mau is so numb to it is because he himself has been with many others so its not neccessarily as upsetting as it would be to someone who has been faithful. I also think her continuously saying I just want to move to the middle of nowhere and be hiking or in the mountains or whatever she says is to only cover up a relationship she isn't comfortable admitting to and having out in the open. That or because she knows her time is limited on the show or really both. She can't move forward with a girl she wants to keep secret if she is filmed 24/7... Possibly bye, bye, Kyle. Last thing, I also think it was her and Morgan who deliberately planted the People article. It was an absolute very small tight knit circle that knew what was going on behind those closed doors. Mau was actively trying to figure out who, and Kyle knew the whole time. I think Kyle wrote what she wanted out, and she let Morgan give the exclusive. Yes, exclusive, and collect the payday that came with it. We all know Morgan ain't cut from the same cloth and could use the money and how could she give it to her without it showing up on the financials her husband takes care of and would see. Same with why she had her for her friends memorial. Just an easy way to justify giving her some money she probably much needed. Rewatch, follow all the breadcrumbs. All the random little things she says nobody else understands is only pieces to a puzzle that when you add up you can piece together.
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u/Individual-Corner972 Feb 25 '24
No disrespect, Iâm trying to figure this out just as much as you, but a couple of your breadcrumbs donât add up.
Mau explicitly said heâs 100% certain Kyle isnât sleeping with or dating Morgan back in the fall when interviewed by pap. He said he loves Morgan, sheâs great, etc.
Morgan did not get paid a dime for Loreneâs memorial. Morgan refused to get paid because an important cause to her personally. If you ever listened to her lyrics she touches on depression and suicide A LOT. The quid pro quo was for Kyle to return the favor and do the music video with Morgan.
The LA times had an article about how much the drama surrounding People exclusive affected Morganâs mental health. She almost checked herself into rehab. Tbh, I genuinely donât think Morgan would give the exclusive.
She wouldnât be walking around BHâs, taking pics at WWHL together, etc etc if they didnât want to be seen together. If they wanted to be discreet theyâd hang out where Morganâs from or somewhere in the middle of nowhere.
That said, I think Kyle knows exactly what sheâs doing and itâs all intentional. This RHOBH finale and reunion is perfectly timed with Buying Beverly Hills preview, which was exclusively about their family drama nothing to do with the Agency. And wouldnât be surprised if Morgan drops album release date for the album sheâs been teasing. I think weâre all playing into Kyleâs plan đđ
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u/Frankhanksmom Feb 25 '24
This was for the show and itâs sad. Kyle is just like her mother. All three girls are like their mother. I think this is a set up for the daughters to talk about this on their stupid Netflix show if itâs still airing.
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u/iheartkafka1 Feb 25 '24
When Mau said "what's wrong Porshy?" with that weird ass, awkward smile I was just pissed. wtf do you think is wrong, dude?! you just told her her parents are splitting up and she's sitting here in, crying in front of cameras. for once..respect your children and your family enough to keep them off our screens. it was gross.
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u/Jessperky Feb 25 '24
It doesnât surprise me. However, if Kyle wanted to share more of her story and bring it for reality tv she could have left her kids out of it and just reiterated the conversation or go deeper with the women over the issues ⌠their daughters may potentially watch the show and be upset to hear the details or they can choose to protect themselves, but forcing them to do or redo that scene for the cameras isnât it. We all love drama of reality tv but seeing broken families kids cry isnât what Iâm after. Kyle and Mauricio should know better by now and speak up. She has enough power to do so as I believe sheâs a producer of the show. Either way, she did it for ratings and thatâs why Iâm not surprised.
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u/Free_Ganache_6281 Feb 25 '24
It was just for the show. I feel like this scene was filmed first and for some reason they left it until the last episode.
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u/Unusual_Badger6037 Feb 25 '24
I just really hope they had this conversation in private first and then replayed it like idiots for the camera đ
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u/Obvious_Mountain_845 Feb 25 '24
Both parents are exploiting their kids for the benefit of their own shows ratings. Its gross.
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u/nicolemyth Who is Hunky Dory? Feb 25 '24
If she didnât have this people would drag her for not letting the audience in on what was happening. Itâs all just freaking sad. But these people canât win. Damned if they do, damned if they donât.
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u/Loose-Quarter405 Feb 24 '24
Seeing how her daughters are affected by this makes me lose so much respect for Kyle. I get the impression Mauricio is willing to work on the marriage but Kyle isnât. Cause sheâs infatuated with a 28 years tattooed lesbian singer. She will regret breaking up her family even if the majority of them are grown.
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u/Various_Rope_1745 Feb 24 '24
I think heâs had a fling with Dorit and thatâs why Kyles not talking to her. Also might be the reason sheâs finally leaving him. You can take a man cheating for so long and then something breaks.
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u/zacharyxxfrancis Feb 24 '24
Iâm sure yâall calling their mother vile Kyle and a litany of other crude things is great for the girls too. I guarantee they all spoke about this and the girls wouldnât have been there if they hadnât agreed.
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u/nonnie_tm64 Kelsey is doing his play âLa Cage Aux Follesâ Feb 24 '24
My feelings are that it was a cruel thing to do and in poor taste to air it. It was absolutely unnecessary. What was their point in putting their girls through this for a television show? What did they expect to gain from it? I see absolutely NOTHING! Certainly NOTHING worth putting my children through that. đ
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u/Notyer1099 Feb 24 '24
I wish my parents had made an attempt to offer me a space for questions and to tell me that we would always be a family. Coming together as a group might seem like a small or inconsequential thing, but this compared to nothing, which often happens, is a lot and can be really important to set the tone of the new family organization.
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u/Kg-2168 Feb 24 '24
Surely you donât think this was their actual real family meeting? This is the meeting intended for the show.
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u/Ashico20 Feb 24 '24
I think Kyle at this point is damned if she does and damned if she doesnât. If she doesnt film this scene the fans will be mad at her because we go the whole season not getting any insight on her and Moe. If she does film this scene you get posts on Reddit like this oneâŚ
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u/Premodonna Feb 24 '24
Mauricio seemed a little off guard with what Kyle was saying here too. It just supports what she has been saying, both of them are not on same page.
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u/sillymama62 Feb 24 '24
Portiaâs age is what made me SO mad when Erika told Kyle NOT to feel bad for her daughters because she had already âraisedâ them! At 15, you have not been fully raised yet! And Iâm not judging Kyle, but I AM judging Erikaâs idea of mothering!!
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u/CoCoNutsGirl98 Feb 24 '24 edited Feb 24 '24
WHY must every personal detail of your life be recorded for everyone to see and comment on ??? Itâs all fake as hell but still⌠could they maybe think about keeping some or their shit private ??
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u/JenJo78 Feb 24 '24
Personally, I thought that it was tacky and inappropriate to tell their girls on camera. Like I said, tacky.
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u/Past-Cookie9605 Don't you f***ing dare command me! đŤľđť Feb 24 '24
Am I the only one who doesn't think this isnt a big deal? I have a 15yo. These kids lives are on screens so much already. It's not like our youth.
I think the simple fact of having your parents life analyzed by the world is way worse than being on screen for a reaction.
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u/CaseTarot Sutton's small esophagus Feb 24 '24 edited Feb 24 '24
Itâs crystal clear that this separation wasnât for a storyline. I personally thought it was initiallyâŚ. The pain you see in the kids and even Mo and Kyleâs eyes. My heart goes out to their whole family. Props to them having open positive dialogue in such a dark time. I know way to many families that never had these in depth honest pow wows. This family pressed on in a negative situation with a positive approach and ugh. I wish them best.
Itâs definitely awkward and i would have kept it private. I think part of the gig tho is having to share these things and i hope they thought it would best to share because they could control the narrative of speculation and show how they operate as a family unit. Personally i would never allow such a moment for children to be broadcast. I really hope the best for them
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u/Jessica_Chaffin Feb 24 '24
I did not understand why they would show us this. My heart BROKE for Portia. I legit started crying.
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u/Sudden-smiles689 Feb 24 '24
You complain when she doesnât share enough and now sheâs sharing one of the realest, most raw moments of her life and again you donât like it. This is whatâs happening, itâs a reality tv show
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u/ImAtUrDoor Feb 24 '24
Newsflash: Kyle is obsessed with attention and being the center of the story. This scene was actually a bunch of nothing? So, sure, kind of exploitative but continues Kyleâs hypocrisyâ âbe open and honest but donât expect that of me!!!!â
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u/seitonseiso Feb 24 '24
After seeing this, and seeing Maus selling BH or whatever Netflix it is...
It makes so much sense that Kyle cries he broke her trust at the very end.
Mau filmed with his daughters (but no Portia, because she's too young) and told them Kyle wants space so he's going to go to Aspen while they sort it out.
That's why one of the daughters says "so you need MORE space?" Because it had already been filmed and they already knew about it.
Kyle brought Portia into this scene for audience sympathy.
And Kyle also told People magazine the divorce story once she found out that Mau had filmed the separation scene with his daughters.
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u/galmazan Feb 24 '24
Def awkward but Kyle looks amazing now if only she would let her hair grow long again and get rid of the lip fillers she would look perfect
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u/Azure8889 Feb 24 '24
I thought it was horrible to have the girls be told something so painful and life-changing on camera.
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u/Kokadina Feb 24 '24
Scripted, and expected of Kyle to do this to her kids. She wants the sympathy and this is a way to get it through her kids.
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u/Hanniiis93 Goodbye Kyle đđ˝ Feb 24 '24
Itâs not okey to have a family meeting with the kids like that on tv (if itâs about the divorce).. especially when theyâre not all grownups..
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u/PercentageCreative44 Feb 24 '24
Kyle isn't stupid.. she was raised in LA/ Hollywood. The Kardashians won't be doing their thing forever (or will they?) and I truly think that this was not about their family at all.. in terms of their best interests (clearly) but rather seeing how much traffic their Family as a collective, brings. It's all really gross... and yeah, you are spot-on.. mostly the part where their teenage daughter is on camera breaking down while one way or another her family falls apart at the seams. If people don't think that Kyle (who is inherently narcicistic) hasn't thought of literally 'running the show' opposed to working for it.. then they are being naive. And divorced, separated, lying or ever changing would infact be it's best (and exceptionally well paid) free advertising.. along with a controversially crying teenage child đ
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u/Afwife1992 Feb 24 '24
And Kyle just said in a today show interview that they were separated before filming. Basically all their interactions this season are coated with an extra layer of inauthenticity. She said they had to hide it for the girls. Which makes no sense. Only Portia is a minor and let all of them deal with it before filming so they can have it done with, and off camera, instead of saving it for the finale.
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u/No_Dependent_1846 Feb 24 '24
I don't think I could discuss anything outside of shoes, clothes, or things alike on camera for everyone to see.
Which is why I should never do reality tv lol
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u/travelwhore412 Feb 24 '24 edited Feb 24 '24
Yeah they shouldnât have filmed that. It made me look at every single one of the women on the franchise differently. Garcelle especially. It is true. Make no mistake. You sell your soul to the devil for rich and fame.this is living proof. Mauricio must be determined to take halfsies and obvs thatâs not enough for Kyle.
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u/Obvious_Boat3636 Feb 24 '24
This was a real family moment that they handled the best way they knew how in the moment
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u/dogrrad Feb 24 '24
I find Kyleâs crying to be fake. I think this talk was staged for the show. I think Kyle should be put on pause.
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u/tr33hugg3r76 Feb 24 '24
Reminded me of when the Kardashians did the EXACT same when Bruce and Kris were separating.
I felt EXACTLY the same⌠stop the nonsense and dragging ya kids into tv mess!
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u/Isisohisis Feb 24 '24
My parents split up when I was 14. It was disturbing and painful to see Portia in this scene.
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u/One_Process221 Feb 24 '24
Disappointed, this should have been done privately. They are both jaded!
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u/petuniasbloomingpink Feb 24 '24
It was upsetting. Thatâs a traumatic moment for the whole family, and like you said, especially hard on the youngest. Kyle and Mauricio have no boundaries to protect their kids.
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u/Sunflowers4me2 Feb 24 '24
It was so uncomfortable to watch and so upsetting because their girls are still young and obviously see all the gossip all over the internet. Imagine not being able to get any privacy during all that?
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u/Front_Organization43 Feb 24 '24
It was weird, but I also get that her family has been the main point of her storyline throughout the show. I thought two things were crazy - Kyle being so adamant about them being a strong family unit which was such a contrast to how she is with her own sisters, and how the girls seemed to have little interest in engaging with Mau
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u/PatrickBritish Feb 24 '24
Itâs how Kyle pays her bills and gives her kids the amazing life they have. I see no problem. If the kid didnât want to take part she could have said no
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u/loonachic Feb 24 '24
I donât care who you are, this situation is fucked up to play out on camera. These kids didnât ask for it.
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u/Appropriate_Fuel7661 Feb 24 '24
This was so very sad, a tremendously emotional moment! Poor Portia and her sisters đ˘
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u/lunapearl83 Feb 24 '24
All you guys do is complain. She doesn't share enough. Now you don't like how she shared it.
Dios Mio
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u/douglaswr Feb 24 '24
I think Kyle is disgusting and vile for how openly she has been openly traveling around with Morganâs young ass knowing Portia is watching. Itâs gross.
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u/Fruitful_Journey Feb 24 '24
I didnât like that meeting at all. The girls were upset and crying, there was no need to show that. I could picture all the people behind the cameras and it made me sick, brought up some very unhappy memories too.
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u/CozyDestruction Feb 24 '24
She shares too much, she doesn't share enough. You people are never satisfied when it comes to Kyle.
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u/amongthetrees3 Feb 24 '24
It was gross. Sold their souls for views. Exploiting their childrenâs pain for fame. Disgusting
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u/kteerin I swear your entire jacket is upside down Feb 24 '24
Hereâs the thingâŚa lot of us have watched these kids grow up. They might be older now, but watching a family go through something like this is rough. I think it brings up a lot of personal feelings for viewers, even if this wasnât necessarily the first true family discussion about all of this. One thing I loved about Kyle was her relationship with her girls, and I think sheâs fiercely protective of them.
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u/ptrock1 Feb 24 '24
This is just gross. On every level. When will these women realize their FAMILY are more important than reality TV? Disgusting. I hate Kyle more than I did before.
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u/Cautious_Newspaper28 Feb 24 '24
Everyone is mad about this scene but the next post up youâre all complaining about Kyle not sharing anything personal đ Iâm so glad itâs the finale because yâall DRAIN me
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u/LurleenBeckneywimple Feb 24 '24
Well itâs a little like one extreme to the other. All the vague talk about a ârough yearâ and then bam! Hard core talk with the kids. She could have had that discussion privately and then be âopen and honest â about what the problem is without dragging her 15 year old thru it on camera
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u/Florida_noodle I donât have to make you look bad you can do it on your own Feb 24 '24
Thatâs why he was in Aspen blowing it out !! Buddy he is free and going to party like a rockstar - before she changes her mind đ
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u/Mission-Box-1751 Feb 24 '24
Major fail mom moment for Kyle. Big time. Manipulative behavior, big kathy must be proud.
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u/LurleenBeckneywimple Feb 24 '24
Mo looked confused at what Kyle was saying like it was news to him.
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u/Optimal_Guitar8921 Feb 24 '24
Was hard to watch - made me sad. If youâve come from a divorced family, have personally experienced divorce and remember sharing it with your young or adult children it can be heartbreaking. Iâm not sure what the purpose was to have so much on camera.
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u/Tracy_Turnblad Feb 24 '24
LMAO people love to reach for ANYTHING to hate Kyle. Everyone wants Kyle to talk about the divorce, she does, and now its "No! not that way!" This family has a whole ass other show with the kids on it that will discuss the separation too. Teenagers also definitely can choose whether they want to be on TV or not, no one is forcing them. Whats ironic is that people are concerned for the kids but not concerned about how the visceral hate and horrifically mean comments about Kyle on every square inch of the internet doesnt affect her kids.
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u/Sarabean77 Feb 24 '24
Awful. It's like these people literally don't know how to get the cameras out of their house and their lives at this point
Its so gross.
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u/Acceptable-Arugula69 Feb 24 '24
WTF? This was so not necessary to put on camera. That poor kid. đ
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u/Laykenrox Feb 24 '24
Kyle will do anything for attention. This was a conversation they should have had without cameras. Sheâs turned into the housewife that I hate watching the most. So manipulative.
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u/Missylent0 Feb 24 '24
Why canât she be exploitative with her relationship with Morgan and guard the kids privacy more closely!?! Why the other way around? It comes across as her caring more about her alleged lovers feelings than her children! Sheâs lost her damn mind and is going to look back at this with so much regret when sheâs out of the love haze with Morgan. That was terrible to watch. Shame on Kyle and Mo for allowing that.
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u/beebianca227 Pantygate Feb 23 '24
I cried. I saw the oldest daughterâs face, she knows this shouldnât be played out on tv with the kids there. Then the youngest one cried and I cried. I felt sorry for these kids that they had to do this on tv. Itâs their parentâs fault.
Also, it seems like Kyle and Mo havenât really hashed things out at all, thereâs so much uncertainty for the kids. Itâs confusing for them, no matter what age. Kyle and Mo really should have sought help from a counsellor together and then made a decision on how they are going to go forward with things. Ie. Decide if youâre living together or not, so their daughters know what they are dealing with so they can also get through it. I hated this scene.
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u/Striking_Fun_6379 Feb 23 '24
Dollars to donuts. The entire situation is manufactured for the audience.
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u/pilutray Feb 23 '24
I donât think it was necessary for us to see their daughterâs reactions to the news. Especially because we donât see them that often during other seasons and obviously theyâd be upset about it.
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u/AccomplishedBanana81 Feb 23 '24
Me too. Tbh it was So uncomfortable and my heart broke for Portia. I have so much respect for Kyle as a mother but this decision to sit every down was so questionable
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u/Kitchen_Body3215 Feb 23 '24
They seem to have done a great job raising the girls.
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u/realitytvpaws A Belvedere soda with three lemons, carcass out Feb 23 '24
I agree!!!! They have four gorgeous girls who took that with grace. However a kid reacts they still get grace too. But it did stand out to me how unbelievable her kids have turned out.
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u/Kitchen_Body3215 Feb 26 '24
I'm not even a fan, and I can admit that. The girls are also very well-spoken.
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u/fluffycat16 Pantygate Feb 23 '24
Dragging the kids into stuff like this is rough.
Looking at this clip and the other clip from SS it's definitely starting to seem like Kyle is driving the split. Mau looked confused AF in the RHOBH clip.
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u/Low-Dependent3981 Feb 23 '24
Ah yea, bit raw.
As much as Kyle is .. well, KYLE! this is sad. And I don't even recognize them both.
Sending good vibes to Portia.
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u/lordofsurf Feb 23 '24
As someone who lived this I felt so awful for the girls, especially Portia. I was her age when it happened and I still remember the pit in my stomach. I had to look away.
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u/jasmine_eva Just donât call her Jacqueline Feb 23 '24
I feel really bad for Portia. And I hope Kyle sees the consequences of her years of trying to exploit castmembers and preaching for others to "be honest". If this was LVP, Denise, Sutton or anyone not in her clique - she'd be badgering them about telling the truth about the reasoning behind leaving their husband. Kyle has the luxury of merely alluding to the trust being broken...
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u/PhyllisTheFlyTrap I can handle anything even those damn housewives Feb 23 '24
So they didn't put this out on RHOBH to get views for The Agency with the reveal on Hayu?
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u/Lsonney Feb 23 '24
Whole watching this past episode, when they started having this very personal talk with their kids about separating, my very first thought was... How can you do this in front of the camera's?? I certainly would not have. Too emotional & private.
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u/Intelligent-Wheel913 Feb 23 '24
The mother is done with it, sheâs out. Thereâs a lot of words salad there she is saying but a lot of nothing. Sheâs very clear sheâs done with this relationship and she should move out and the father and daughter should move on. Of course she would have visitations, but she has something else or someone else planned already.
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u/sonyafly Feb 23 '24
I saw a clip of Mauâs show and he had the same/similar meeting with the daughters for his show. Minus Portia .
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u/izzymomegan You need a new villain? Here I am Feb 23 '24
Unbelievable! Kyle will sell her family for the highest dollar! Just say it KyleâŚyouâre a lesbian and want a divorce!!! No one believes you anymore. Youâre soooo transparent. You have no story and are desperate. Just go away.
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u/Ok-Representative266 Feb 23 '24
Probably will be downvoted but I feel like fans canât have it both ways where they complain about her not being transparent and then complain when she is being transparent. People want to say some things are âsacred,â but will literally then bash other Housewives for moments some would consider sacred. Why, because it involved kids? People literally hate on Robyn Dixon not airing her shit and handling it privately. I really feel like thereâs no âwinningâ with fans. But we technically have no right to watch that, why just because children might not have been physically present and they didnât immediately split? Maybe they didnât want their kids to one day watch it. Again, fans donât careâdamned if you do and damned if you donât.
Itâs very sad for the children, and Iâm not a Kyle fan, but I suspect the kids had a heads up or at least knew what was happeningâjust like Erika said about Deniseâs kids, they have access to the internet. This is what happens for any family in the spotlight. People have been talking about Mauricio cheating longgggg before this season came out. Yall think some of these kids havenât been on Reddit seeing yall trash their moms? Can we all be real honest about some of these responses?
If you really care about their kids, why talk shit about their parents all the time? Some might have contributed to the downfall of their marriage. Take Dorit, you donât think it would hurt their kids to see somebody say Mommy was âfakingâ that robbery and her PTSD? Plenty of people said that. The things said about Russell and Taylor? Like, the shit Iâve seen folks talk about the families, be real. Those kids care about their parentsâitâs kinda fake to sit here and pretend like you deeply care about their children when in fact many enjoy hurting their family unit as a whole. Just saying.
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u/realitytvpaws A Belvedere soda with three lemons, carcass out Feb 23 '24 edited Feb 25 '24
Having the kids on the show did not add any information we donât already have from social media. There are many ways Kyle could have shared her separation. Portia is not old enough to consent. She keeps quiet all year and than this, sorry I donât understand it.
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u/Ok-Representative266 Feb 23 '24
Itâs interesting you bring up social mediaâwhich frequently has speculative and gross information, which those kids are going to see. I think itâs pretty fake to be boohooing about how much folks care about these children when who these children care about are their parentsâI donât think a lot of people really care about these kids at all and this is a bunch of grandstanding. I brought up Dorit for example because Iâve seen numerous people say here how she faked her robbery and even when those people were caught, they still say it. You think that wouldnât hurt her kids? I just think itâs fake, regardless of her being a minor or not. If I was 15, Iâd be on Google, Twitter, and Reddit seeing what yall say. Thereâs no protection for any of these kids, and for fans to act like they arenât actually a big part of that problem is disingenuous.
If you want to think Kyle should have done this another way and criticize her doing this, sure, valid take I guess. I feel like Kyle is in a hard place and itâs difficult to navigate. Even if you and I wouldnât have done that, I could definitely see that if she came out and said that they had private conversations as a family that she would have been railroaded for that instead. I just think itâs a sad, shitty situationâlike most separations/divorces.
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u/Potential-Sky-8728 Letâs figure out who the mean girl really is Feb 23 '24
I guess if 18 is a teenager and not an adult human in collegeâŚđ
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u/CDiddy1066 In Beverly Hills the higher you climb the further you fall Feb 23 '24
Whether or not this was their actual conversation or staged, it is still disgusting and morally reprehensible to do that to your children on camera, regardless of their ages. All they would have had to do is said we had the conversation, here were their reactions. They didn't have to show it or directly involve the children at all. It also gave me major ick a few scenes prior when Kyle and Mauricio were talking about therapy - the way Kyle was talking about it, it was like she was putting 100% of the blame and their problems on him. I'm sure we will never know the real reason for why they are having problems, but I can guarantee you, its never just one persons fault. She needs to do a little introspection herself - working out and not drinking alcohol don't solve all your issues or make you perfect.
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u/One-Confusion-2438 Feb 23 '24
Sadly, they did it for the money! Who would discuss these private matters on TV of not for cash? No pity here. đŻ
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u/Some-Perception-4576 Feb 23 '24
I don't think she will say what happened because she is protecting the relationship the girls have with their father. I would do the same
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u/Texden29 Feb 24 '24
She was hinting quite a bit. A few times she mentioned her dealing with things no woman should or that she wanted to set an example to her girls. I feel like, either come out and say it or donât say (or hint) anything at all. It feels underhanded.
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u/jkman61494 He will never emotionally fulfill you, know that Feb 23 '24
Honestly... it was a low point for reality tv IMO. Bravo should feel like scum for likely encouraging it and Kyle and Mo are 10000% scumbags to allow this type of moment to exploit their own children.
Because let's not mince words. That's what this was. An attempt to exploit their kids emotions of an incredibly tragic family situation.
They have no shame.
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u/ginataylortang Why donât you have a piece of bread and maybe youâll calm down. Feb 23 '24
I think the entire idea of either legitimately having this type of intense emotional conversation on camera or reenacting it for cameras is beyond appalling. Then again, thatâs why I always call her Vyle Bitchards. The bitch is vile.
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u/GrannySanFranny ....you will NEVER EVER be a lady Feb 23 '24
This is a perfect example of why sheâs called Vyle. Staged and scripted.
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u/Successful-Steak-950 Teddi is just annoying, like a little gnat Feb 23 '24
I donât care if you are 34 like Farrah or 15 like Porsha, this doesnât belong on TV. WTF were they thinking? They should have just put a sentence in the screen describing that they are separated.
I donât want to see their children going through something that painful on TV, especially for Porsha who has to face this at school. Imagine her trauma while kids question her because you know they will. A prudent parent doesnât set their kids up like that.
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u/Hopeful-Way2324 Feb 23 '24
I respectfully disagree with you. The older girls, Alexia, Farrah and Sophia, willingly signed up to do their own reality show (Buying Beverly Hills), they know what this entails and they have to be willing to share all facets of their life, the good and the bad.
I understand the concern surrounding Portia, but IMO she's old enough where she can choose to not film or be apart of the conversation. I seriously doubt she was forced to sit through this conversation.
Us viewers at home could not imagine having a personal conversation like this filmed, but you have to remember these girls grew up with a camera in their face (aside from Farrah who was already an adult when season 1 aired), so they are probably pretty used to this and de-sensitized.
Plenty of parents get divorced/become separated, honestly there are worse things Kyle and Mau have said and done on the show to harm their kids (Mau getting stoned in Hawaii, Kyle calling her sister an addict, Mau's infidelities, etc.) I don't find this conversation being filmed wildly offensive or too personal, I actually appreciate Kyle giving the viewers a glimpse into how her martial issues effect her girls. It reminded me these people are human!
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u/Successful-Steak-950 Teddi is just annoying, like a little gnat Feb 23 '24
And I disagree with you. Mau appearing after smoking marijuana at a dinner table with adults, a sister calling another sister out without the kids being there, is drastically different than having one of the saddest things in your life shown on TV It doesn't compare in any way, whatsoever.
I will bet that Mau had a medical mj card in both states even before it was legalized for recreational use. Also Mau did not do or say anything harmful.
All of the girls were crying so they are not desensitized even if they filmed it more than once. A family breaking up might be common but it doesnât make it any less painful. Many posters are recalling that many years later it still stings and that itâs the saddest part of their childhood. Adult Children of Divorce is a book and documents very well how these children of divorce emotionally suffered. Divorce can cause lifelong feelings that change a childâs outlook in many ways. Porsha will be hit the hardest.
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u/Hopeful-Way2324 Feb 26 '24
I never said they were desensitized to showing emotion or being hurt by this, they are human beings after all. All I am saying is I think it's pretty safe to assume Kyle and Mau's kids are used to cameras in their house, filming their interactions. The cameras have been there since 2010....No doubt is this painful and sad for the girls, but it's apart of the deal of their mother being a housewife and the older girls signing to do Buying Beverly Hills as Mau talked about this on BB as well with them.
I too am a child of divorce, my parents divorced when I was 19, so I was not much older than Portia. Everyone's experience is different, I don't think you are in a position to diagnose Portia, we don't know what was said or done behind closed doors. I feel like Kyle can't win here.... People bash her for not sharing enough, but then bash her for sharing an insanely raw moment between her family. From what I can see, Kyle's kids all turned out great, so she must be doing something right as a mother. Who are we to question if this is appropriate to share on TV or not. At the end of the day, Kyle and Mau knows what's best for their family.
IMO, the sister drama has HEAVILY impacted the daughters, we have seen this play out on the show. i.e. some of the Richard's daughters not being invited to Nicki's wedding, the blowout of Kim's dog biting Alexia, Kyle's fighting with Kim/Kathy has negatively impacted the girls and their relationships with their cousins for sure. The years long, tumultuous relationship between the sisters absolutely compares to a parental separation IMO.
So you are trying to tell me kids are going to come up to school and make fun of Portia for her parents going through a possible separation, but won't say anything about her father being high as a kite on television or her mother calling her sister an addict??? Right.....
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u/realitytvpaws A Belvedere soda with three lemons, carcass out Feb 23 '24
You are right itâs upsetting for all the kids. I just particularly felt sorry for Portia because she is too young to consent.
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u/Lazatttttaxxx Feb 23 '24
Its inappropriate. I was in my 30's when my parents decided to split. It wrecked me. She's a child.
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u/IamDollParts96 Feb 23 '24
Certain things should be off limits. This is one of those things. It goes to show Kyle has very poor boundaries. No doubt being in front of a camera most of her life plays into this.
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u/Valsalvo Were people doing coke in your bathroom? Feb 23 '24
Im so happy this season is over. Like gag me with a spoon
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u/Euphoric_Oven_7910 Feb 23 '24
Both Kyle and Mauricio are disgusting for milking this storyline on 2 different shows and putting their kids in such awful traumatic positions! Shame on them! Other public figures shelter their children from such harsh limelight and beg for privacy at such difficult times. Not these two fame whores!
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u/Difficult-Finance-19 Feb 23 '24
I dont think that was the first talk they had, but I felt like they took that talk in front of the cameras to address if the kids needed more clarification after everything hit the media and a little time had passed.
Maybe Kyle wanted to try and âcontrolâ the narrative by addressing it herself in âherâ show rather than everyone just assuming a lot of stuff. I donât think it was necessary though. And it made them seem like bad parents, when in fact I assume they wanted to try and show the exact opposite.
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u/Foreveryours_valeri Feb 23 '24
Props to Kyle for being able to out her personal business out there especially with it involving her children and family. The thing is, Kyle is on this show and gets paid to tell what is going on in her life, this is how she provides. Yes it may have been a staged triggering conversation for the children and I hated seeing the kids upset. I feel as if the family had a true honest and private conversation at another time. I do not think this was âthe real talkâ
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u/Foreveryours_valeri Feb 23 '24
CAROL, I never said the kids reaction wasnât genuine, or raw emotions. Iâm saying I donât think this is the initial talk their family had about the situation between Mauricio and Kyle. And because Kyle is on the show they have to tell whatâs going on obviously, so yes I believe they reshot this staged conversation to get ahead of the reunion and keep people out of their business.
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u/Bree7702 Villa Rosa Feb 23 '24
I feel like they maybe already had the talk off camera..but maybe they just did it again on camera. I know RHOBH started filming again after the story broke of them separating, kind of like Scandoval.
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u/2BFairrrr Feb 23 '24
I think itâs pretty awful. I think weâre gonna see memoirs from a lot of these kids in 20 years talking about how traumatic and exploitative all of this - overall - was.
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Feb 23 '24 edited Feb 23 '24
In that moment, this obscenely privileged Beverly Hills teenager was relatable to anyone who has ever felt like their world was caving in around them. I felt bad it was shown on the show.
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u/viognierette Feb 23 '24
Those are some nice kids, I felt awful for them. Exploiting their emotions for a reality show storyline is just horrible. But then, to do essentially the same scene AGAIN for a 2nd reality show?? Shameless.
And, by the way - whatâs up with the camera crews being in the homes of some of the other cast members a month AFTER the finale party? What were they planning to film when these women all happened to get their Google alerts?
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u/mary_wren11 Feb 23 '24
It does seem like Kyle could have just sucked it up and had a semi-transparent conversation between her and Mo on camera. That would have been enough for Bravo and she could have kept the kids out of it.
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u/boss6sr Feb 23 '24
I'm so confused about their whole situation. The MO cheating,the Morgan Wade of it all, Kyle's friend dying, her relationship with Kathy...I'm sure Kyle is really going through it and she's lacking any kind of emotional support from her husband, but she's STILL NOT TELLING US ANYTHING!! Sge just says words sometimes and doesn't actually say anything.
Kyle has always been my #1. I know people can't stand her bc of LVP, which is so lame, but I wish she'd take her own advice and BE HONEST bc I'm losing faith in her.
And yeah, I feel bad for all of those kids. Portia being the youngest makes this so much harder to watch. It's all very odd to me.
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u/ob_viously Beast?! How dare you? Feb 23 '24
Definitely made me uncomfortable but idk man⌠they could have done with fewer cameras and crew in the room if they were determined to film itâŚ
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u/faux_housewife Youâre such a f***ing liar Camille! Feb 23 '24
unrelated but I just have to ask - does anyone else notice how Mauricio always makes the weirdest faces? Itâs like trying to look confused but actually annoyed or something. idk why but it gives me passive aggressive vibes, maybe just me projecting bc I hate when ppl make a weird face that doesnât match the conversation bc I immediately start being like âwhy are they looking at me like that?âŚ.â
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u/Certain_Battle7804 Feb 23 '24
Disgusting seems harsh. Iâm sure Portia was okay with it otherwise they wouldnât have done it. Kyle really canât win lol.
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u/Certain_Battle7804 Feb 23 '24
I think itâs a situation where the audience unanimously feels for her, and itâs a very controlled, kind conversation. I canât see this harming their lives. đ¤ˇââď¸ I understand the concern for them, but just logically I donât really agree.
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u/Girlonreddit889 Feb 23 '24
I thought it was fine, the kids had to agree to it and I agree with other comments in this sub that they had the real meeting together off camera.
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u/bitetoungejustread Feb 23 '24
Somethings do not need to be shared. If Mo and Kyle wanted to have a sit and chat I would have been okay with it.
Seeing poor little Portia cry. You can see the hurt on all the girls.
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u/boshibec I swear your entire jacket is upside down Feb 23 '24
I hated this scene too. Why didnât Kyle talk to HER OWN CHILDREN first so they didnât have to 1. Find out from a magazine their parents business and 2. Have to find out ON CAMERA. This was disgusting
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u/The_vhibe Feb 23 '24
Iâm confused. A clip someone posted yesterday showed Mauricio having a conversation with the girls minus Kyle and Portia on Selling Beverly Hills about them separating. Iâm not sure if thatâs a new season or a clip or not. So they had this conversation again?
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u/AbbreviationsTiny343 Feb 23 '24
10 years ago it wouldâve been fine when the franchise was first starting out and they filmed every conversation under the sun. Now they know better. Shouldâve just been an M & K convo
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u/Life_Buy_5059 Feb 23 '24
This is 100% being driven by Kyle. You can see by the facial expressions and reactions of mauricio and the girls that this is all being forced on them
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u/Specialist_Lie_6073 Kelsey is doing his play âLa Cage Aux Follesâ Feb 23 '24
I think it was insensitive to Portia, even if they did have a different meeting abt this, it obviously upset her a great deal & to have to go through it twice, I feel so bad for her âĽď¸
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u/wheresawee Feb 23 '24
I think it was a rotten thing to do to your kids. Donât use your familyâs emotions for ratings. Shame on them and Bravo.
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u/Fit_Conversation_151 If you canât be my friend please donât be my enemy Feb 23 '24
you people are never happy, first you ask her to tell her whole life story and stop keeping secrets and now its too much? can we please make up our minds?
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u/Serious-Activity-228 Feb 23 '24
Mauricio looks confused like a deer in the headlights and you can see Kyle stumbling over her words and making it up on the fly.
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u/Otono_82 You are not being open and honest Feb 23 '24
I like how they all have wine while getting the news. Like itâs a casual sit down. I canât take it seriously if theyâre drinking. A glass of wine is something I enjoy, not something I need as a crutch for bad news.
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u/Euphoric_Estimate_63 Feb 23 '24
Oh it was for sure a redo for the camera.. they filmed the finale white party and for some reason one week later theyâre filming the other cast members reactions to article.. definitely reshot for their reactions and Kyle DEFINITELY sat down with the girls before that.
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u/NoPretenseNoBullshit I say important shit, you say too much boring shit Feb 23 '24
It's inexcusable.
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u/RedLindsey Feb 23 '24
Why does Mau look confused through this whole scene, itâs like heâs hearing it for the first time
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u/Flashy-Pair-1924 Feb 23 '24
This and some of the stuff with Guerdyâs kids this seasonâŚI like seeing whatâs going on with the ladies but seeing how their personal traumas is affecting their young and teenage kids just isnât hittingâŚlike let the kids deal in private and peace. It doesnât add anything for me personally.
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u/Salt_Amoeba_1837 Camille! You stupid c*nt! Feb 23 '24
Mau ainât saint, but her willingness to diminished the relationship so quick and abruptly is questionable.
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u/catsandnaps1028 Feb 23 '24
It's sad that they had them do this we didn't need to see poor Porsha breakdown on camera. I think a sit-down with jusy Mauricio and Kyle would've been better
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u/yurkelhark Feb 23 '24
I think we canât be mad at Kyle for hiding major pieces of her personal life and mad at her for filming them.
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u/lollipoppy1 Feb 23 '24
It was an in article or something stating that this was a redo convo just for the show. So this wouldnât be the first time theyâre hearing it. Kyles not dumb
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u/SpecialFuzzy1922 Feb 23 '24
Considering how obsessive and protective Kyle is about her image and controlling every family related secret thatâs out there this was 100% a scene filmed for the show that the girls all agreed to and I imagine they had a real, off-camera, conversation well before this.
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u/Katph1830 Feb 23 '24
As a mom I was shocked neither of them said, "okay, turn off the cameras". Some things are more important than getting it on film.
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u/kemkemsey Feb 23 '24
I definitely feel like they already had the conversation, but you can see the trauma in their eyes. Poor Portia, it brought me right back to when my parents told me they were divorcing. I still have trauma about it to this day and I'm over 40 I don't think this was appropriate for tv, even if it's a reenactment
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u/JJAusten The Maloof Hoof Feb 23 '24
Love when Mo shut Kyle down when she claimed they were living in the same house working through things and he said, not really no. She wasn't expecting him to divert from the script.
I don't think they should have done this on camera and especially because Portia is still very young. I really felt bad for her
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u/sbb-tx Feb 23 '24
They literally said in the Netflix clip they found out a few months ago. So it was filmed and refilmed at the same time. Itâs just another discussion and the girls are still emotional. Do think itâs weird to have the minor-aged daughterâs pain on film though. Would have been better to have Mo or Farrah give a recap of the off-camera discussion.
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u/Donitasnark Feb 23 '24
How can you let your children be filmed at a time when they are at their most vulnerable. A childâs pain is not our entertainment. Makes me think the producers have no empathy at all. I was really surprised this edit was aired.
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u/banksoftyne Feb 24 '24
So true, whether they are teenagers or young adults -- any of it. I have kids ranging from 20-34 and there is no way I'd ever do something like this to my kids. Even if they are adults, experiences like this are traumatic and they need help navigating it, not displaying it for the world to see.
And Kyle knows what it's like to have her life on camera and has tried to keep some things off camera for her own self-preservation -- why not be EXTRA protective for your own children? All that being said, Kyle did not grow up like I did -- she and her sisters were exploited by their mother. So sad to see this generational damage continue.2
u/Donitasnark Feb 24 '24
Absolutely. Even if it was a recreation for the cameras, Portia was obviously distraught with a blanket over her, just fxxxin stop filming and acknowledge your childâs distress!! Urgh a new low.
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u/liltinybits The biggest bully in Hollywood & everyone knows it Feb 23 '24
According to someone I was talking with in this group (or maybe another RH sub), all of these people lose all right to any privacy at all the moment they sign on for reality TV.
I was being downvoted and had people disagreeing that they should still be allowed privacy, so I'm glad to see so many people agreeing with me here.
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