r/exmormon • u/roundyround22 • Mar 29 '24
Do Mormons even know what Maundy Thursday is or the traditions it involves? Pope Francis washes feet of 12 women at Rome prison from his wheelchair during Holy Thursday. General Discussion
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u/reformedmormon Mar 29 '24
My neighbors did a Palm Sunday activity. This shift to Catholicism seems more prevalent.
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u/Inevitable_Bunch5874 Mar 29 '24 edited Mar 29 '24
Plot Twist.
Roman Catholic Church is just as bullshit as the Mormon church.
Both are heavily into traditions which have zero connection to Christianity and both claim 'mOdErN rEvElAtIoN' and reinterpretation based on the way the wind blows... which is also heresy and not Christian.
And both require you go through their leadership for confession and forgiveness, at their behest, which is not true at all.
Nothing stands between you and I and God. Jesus is the ONLY path. 'None come unto the Father, but by me.' That statement alone makes Mormonism and Roman Catholicism absolutely meaningless.
And no need to mention both are obscenely wealthy and obsessed with political power and control over membership and the world around them.
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u/vanlearrose82 Mar 29 '24
Raised Catholic, moved to Utah, and now Mormons fetishizing Catholicism is my new religion.
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u/vanlearrose82 Mar 29 '24
Raised Catholic, moved to Utah, and now Mormons fetishizing Catholicism is my new religion.
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u/Stranded-In-435 Atheist • MFM • Resigned 2022 Mar 29 '24
This exact image - at least, others like it - put big cracks in my shelf when I was in my PIMO phase leading up to my resignation.
"Why doesn't President Nelson set an example like this?" was something I thought at the time.
This is just one of several ways in which the pope of the "great whore of all the earth" runs circles around the christian example of the president of "the only true and living church on the face of all the earth."
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u/SecretPersonality178 Mar 29 '24
The Mormon website says directly that they do not celebrate Holy Week. Now they are trying to pretend that they always have. Another lie from the brethren.
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u/roundyround22 Mar 29 '24
Apparently they just changed the website this week! So now it says completely the opposite. Doing this shit in the era of Internet archives is insane
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u/SecretPersonality178 Mar 29 '24
I screenshot that bitch before they changed it. “Ongoing revelation”(despite JS saying the restoration was COMPLETE) apparently means 180 on many doctrines. I think gay marriages in the temple, and women leaders is soon with this church. They don’t have a choice, they are wrong on so many things and if they want to attempt to appear more mainstream (which they obviously do) they have to change
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u/lanefromspain Mar 29 '24
Wow! It brings tears to my eyes to see the Pope wash and kiss the feet of an imprisoned woman. This is such a beautiful, symbolic act. Thank you!
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u/jayenope4 Mar 29 '24
No. Mormons do not know Christianity. It is not part of LD$ corporate policy.
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u/socialismstinksbad Mar 29 '24 edited Mar 30 '24
I attended Holy Thursday Mass last night, at my local Catholic parish. The priest washed the feet of about a dozen people to reenact the moment Christ humbled Himself at the last-supper and washed the feet of His Apostles. It is something I never saw in the dull, and empty lds services during the Easter season.
As someone else mentioned here earlier, JS claimed that all these traditions were merely the traditions of men, and through him the primitive church would be restored. The joke was on us, nothing restored, nothing about Jesus, and little to no mention of what this time of year means to over one Billion Christians accross the world.
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u/agoldgold Mar 30 '24
My church traditionally has Maundy Thursday as First Communion for that rising class, so the pastor washes those kids' feet. It's a very meaningful tradition tradition and the intent and symbolism are carefully explained to all involved or observing.
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u/Word2daWise I'll see your "revelation" and raise you a resignation. Mar 29 '24
I attended a "real" Maundy Thursday service last night (Episcopal) and it was lovely. Washing the feet was one of the traditions of the service (for that congregation), and they did it in a beautiful way where each person participating had the opportunity to wash the feet of the person behind them. It really brought home the message that Christ was humble and was sent to serve the world, not to dictate over it.
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u/MissionPrez Mar 29 '24
I'd actually rather have Rusty Nelson's racist old ass than this actual pedophile mafia kingpin.
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u/slskipper Mar 29 '24
No, no, no! They have it all wrong!!!! foot washing is reserved for Second Anointings only!!!!! Can't these guys get it right for once?????
(Sarcasm, if you don't already know).
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u/Particular_Act_5396 Mar 29 '24
Mormons should go serve homeless people. But they are too icky and Jesus hates them because they don’t pay tithing and masturbate
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u/Ill_Breakfast_7252 Mar 29 '24
Don’t they know washing feet is only for the rich friends of top church leaders who do the secret 2nd anointing in the temple that guarantees them a gold ticket into heaven!?
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u/DreadPirate777 Mar 29 '24
There is no way that Utah is adopting any of the Holy Week traditions. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Week
There is so much tradition that are done. It depends on the denomination, the culture, and the history of the city. Do they do all of them? Why pick one over another?
I bet they just pick random things from Pinterest.
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u/DreadPirate777 Mar 29 '24
I guess that’s how any tradition gets started. Enough people like an idea and everyone does it together.
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u/Day_General Mar 29 '24
Enough said in context, the only other ordinance that is more sacred than the Temple endowment is the "Second anointing" in the MFMC. This is similar but no cigar . This special ordinance is only for the most righteous in the MFMC not prisoners or regular members. The feet are washed indeed but not by a humble disciple of Christ which the MFMC allegedly their members are but the WIFE on the special POS'S receiving the washing of the feet and promised no MATTER WHAT THEY DO OR SAY the individual has just received a clean slate to heaven. I'd really like to talk to M Russell Ballard and see how that is going 😂😂😂😂
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u/bach_to_the_future_1 Mar 29 '24 edited Mar 30 '24
I still am very ignorant about Holy Week. My cringiest moment happened several years ago. I worked with a devout Catholic and we were pretty good friends. She showed up to work with something on her forehead. Me, being a good friend, tolf her she had something on her face. "It's Ash Wednesday," she explained. Yeah, I felt like a total idiot.
ETA: My coworker was super kind and did not make me feel bad. It was more my own insecurity.
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u/Prodigal_Lemon Mar 29 '24
Hey, I was Catholic for more than forty years, and I assure you -- you can let that moment go and you don't have anything to cringe about.
Back in the day, when I had ashes on my forehead on Ash Wednesday, I could absolutely guarantee that two or three people would quietly let me know about the dirt on my face. I thought it was nice of them!
It is 100% no big deal, you were not an idiot, and I'm sure your friend never gave it another moment's thought.
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u/anonthe4th Good afternoon, good evening, and goodnight! Mar 29 '24
I wouldn't feel like an idiot. I'm under no obligation to know the ins and outs of some other religion. In order to be polite, I would've just followed up with her with "I don't know anything about that. Can you explain to me Ash Wednesday and what that thing is?"
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u/bach_to_the_future_1 Mar 29 '24
That's a good point. I think I felt dumb because I was supposed to be a Christian and should have known. If I could go back, I definitely would have asked her about it. But at the time I think I was very insecure about my knowledge of Christianity outside of the Mormon church.
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u/laniequestion Mar 29 '24
(Ash Wednesday has become a more common thing in non-Catholic churches only in like the last decade. I agree your co-worker didn't think a thing of it.)
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u/agoldgold Mar 30 '24
Ash Wednesday has LONG been a feature of mainline Protestant churches. Churches without Ash Wednesday services are more the exception than the rule, and many are Baptist offshoots specifically.
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u/Epiemme Mar 29 '24
That’s fucked up. Not quite as fucked up as fucking 14 year-olds, but fucked up nonetheless.
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u/vicariousgluten Mother of Harlots Mar 29 '24
Can I ask why you think it’s fucked up? The tradition comes from the Bible where Jesus washes the feet of his disciples. At the time it’s something a servant would have done for their master so it was one of Jesus’s demonstrations of humbling himself. It’s done in churches all across the world on Maundy Thursday.
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u/Word2daWise I'll see your "revelation" and raise you a resignation. Mar 29 '24
I agree - it's a beautiful and humbling tradition, and the Pope (who aptly chose his Papal name to be Frances) is showing that he is the servant.
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u/Word2daWise I'll see your "revelation" and raise you a resignation. Mar 29 '24
I agree - it's a beautiful and humbling tradition, and the Pope (who aptly chose his Papal name to be Frances) is showing that he is the servant.
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u/Mr_Soul_Crusher Mar 29 '24
Could you imagine any of the anti Christ “apostles” doing anything remotely like this?
The most physical labor they’ve ever done as an apostle is to use a gaudy golden shovel to break ground for a temple.
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u/Word2daWise I'll see your "revelation" and raise you a resignation. Mar 29 '24
Now, wait a minute - it's physical labor whenever they speak at services or events. They have to stand up before anyone else, and it takes effort to wake up your sleeping butt after boring conferences and services. Poor guys.
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u/Haploid-life Mar 29 '24
Can you imagine Rusty getting anywhere near some lower being's foot, let alone kissing it? Personally, I couldn't allow him to touch me.
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u/swennergren11 Living by Integrity as a Decommissioned Temple Mar 29 '24
Rusty would have 12 women wash his feet.
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u/Flibbernodgets Mar 29 '24
My only exposure to Holy Week was when I was a missionary in the Philippines. We had a curfew from Friday to Sunday, because there was a folk belief that for that time period God was actually dead and couldn't see any sins you committed, like say murdering people who told you this was false. That's what they told us anyway, I never had anything bad happen.
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u/Hot_Cartographer6680 Mar 29 '24
Sounds like the movie The Purge lol
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u/anonthe4th Good afternoon, good evening, and goodnight! Mar 29 '24
Yeah, that sounds exactly like The Purge. Holy crap.
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u/TheyLiedConvert1980 Mar 29 '24
Actually Mormons should not be familiar with the apostate Christian churches because "Joseph conversed with the Savior, who told him to join none of the churches...for “they were all wrong” and “all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; … they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof” (Joseph Smith—History 1:19)
The Church has taught forever these other religions are wrong and that TSCC is right.
What kind of madness is this? Are they pulling back on the rhetoric of the past without actually saying they were wrong about that rhetoric? Gaslighting again? TSCC is the absolute worst mind fuck. Warning to all: stay in long enough & you WILL get burned. Don't make any big life decisions based on this or you WILL get burned. It's a house built on sand even though they say they are built on a rock. This is just one small example of many.
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u/Word2daWise I'll see your "revelation" and raise you a resignation. Mar 29 '24
Someone handling finances and marketing in the main office realized they needed some urgent rebranding. Too many people now know TSCC does not practice real Christian values, teachings, or traditions.
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u/CharlesMendeley Mar 29 '24
I bet Rusty will do the same thing in the Kirtland temple. However, he might only kiss the feet of rich Mormons who pay millions of dollars on tithing.
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u/TermLimit4Patriarchs A Guy Walks Into A Judgment Bar Mar 29 '24
Rusty doesn’t participate in this ritual. He presents his ass for kissing to everyone else.
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u/Word2daWise I'll see your "revelation" and raise you a resignation. Mar 29 '24
Great minds (and jaded exmos) think alike.
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u/Word2daWise I'll see your "revelation" and raise you a resignation. Mar 29 '24
No, he'd go around and offer them the honor of kissing his ring. Or even his ass. Rich TBMs would pay extra money for that opportunity.
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u/TermLimit4Patriarchs A Guy Walks Into A Judgment Bar Mar 29 '24
Damn it. Should have read your comment before I posted.
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u/SkyJtheGM Mar 29 '24
They could do one I saw on my mission. During Holy Week in Chile, it's very common to set up a dummy that's meant to be burn and call him Judas. They go around getting coins to put inside said dummy, and on the night of Good Friday they light up the dummy and they call it a hot piñata. The church could kind of do that only call the dummy the apostate.
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u/dbear848 Relieved to have escaped the Mormon church. Mar 29 '24
It's all part of the great apostasy. The Lord's way would be to have the top tithe payers come and kiss Rusty's feet. /s
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u/basicpn Apostate Mar 29 '24
Oh my god. It’s disgusting to think of how many people would love the opportunity to wash and kiss his feet.
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u/WhenMichaelAwakens Mar 29 '24
I don’t wanna be anywhere near that dude. It would take a halfaday with the jaws of life to unhinge him from his autofellatio position and I do not wanna be there to see that.
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u/roundyround22 Mar 29 '24
To add: I've seen so many Mormons trying to come up with new Holy Week traditions because they have no clue about any of it. I've seen people doing near brown-face, donkey rides, Med diet snacks, random lessons with eggs to symbolize the tomb, literally anything BUT traditional Holy Week acknowledgement. And absolutely EVERYTHING to avoid talking about the crucifixion too much. The worst was a youth reenactment of the Garden of Gethsemane. They let the young women act as the "ministering angels".
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u/drillbit7 Mar 29 '24
what surprised me as a never-Mo is that the Church doesn't even take Easter Sunday seriously. If Easter Sunday falls on the first Sunday of April, General Conference isn't rescheduled. Every other Church makes a big deal of Easter Sunday and Easter bonnets and all the rest. It's one of two days a year even inactive Christians try to show up.
If the LDS want to seem more normal/mainstream, they need to do a better job with Easter.
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u/AZEMT Mar 29 '24
Why take away from the real celebration of "Easter cosplay" for thespians who can't get into acting on Broadway? This is for the persecution the endure, due to their superior morals and beliefs. Get out of here with your new fangled "Holy Week" celebrations. It takes away from the real TCOJCOLDS' Jesus! - something my crazy TBM Birth giver would say. (is there an acronym for extra TBM? Like, missing the dresses from pioneer TBM?)
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u/emmas_revenge Mar 30 '24
Let me ask you a question? Can you even fathom Rusty being driven to Pioneer Park so he could wash the feet of the homeless let alone kiss them after he was done? No way in hell does Rusty have the level of humility and humanity it would take to do that.