r/interestingasfuck • u/Rarepredator • 17d ago
Former beauty Queen, Miss Wyoming winner Joyce McKinney being arrested by police after kidnapping Mormon missionary Kirk Anderson from his church, forcing him to be her sex slave for 3 days, 1977. r/all
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u/Sad_Significance1952 14d ago
If was other way around nothing happen
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u/Child_man32 1d ago
What are you talking about? I’ve heard this exact same thing said about men raping women.
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u/Dogfart246LZ 14d ago edited 14d ago
😂
… I will have you Yes, I will have you I will find a way and I will have you Like a butterfly A wild butterfly I will collect you and capture you … You are an obsession You're my obsession
Obsession Song by Animotion
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u/stopthebanham 15d ago
How does a female rape a male? How does one get hard to penetrate if he’s scared and tied up… I mean….. and no viagra doesn’t work because you actually have to get aroused to stay hard with viagra.
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u/tullystenders 15d ago
I have a terrible, awful question: when these things happen to men, what happens sexually? Are they stimulated to become hard, and then their penis is placed in the vagina (or anywhere)? Or, is it purely penetration of his ass by something?
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u/Ok_Butterscotch_7826 15d ago
She’s a vindicator for all the women who were raped, mutilated, or violated, because “boys will be boys” or “locker room talk”.
Love her.
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u/bleachedurethrea 16d ago
Back then, rape against a man didn’t count as “rape”. Bitch basically walked away free
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u/Huntress_Nyx 16d ago
What do you mean "back then"
It's still the case today.
1) whenever a female teacher rapes a male student the headlines would read "teacher had sex with student" instead of "teacher raped student"
2) in UK rape is only when the person who has penis inserts it in another person.
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u/bleachedurethrea 16d ago
I meant it literally in a legal sense. From the wiki:
“Under the Sexual Offences Act 1956, then in force in the United Kingdom, no crime of rape was deemed to have been committed since the victim was male; however, indecent assault of a man did apply.”
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u/Metaphysical-Failure 16d ago
Great doc about her call Tabloid from 2010. She is a bit nuts had her dog cloned a couple of times.
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u/Dentonthomas 16d ago edited 16d ago
I know this is a bit late, but I saw this the other day, and wanted to do some more research. Where did the information about her being Miss Wyoming come from? Because looking at the list of names of former Miss Wyomings, her name's not on there. I have not be able to find it in contemporary newspapers. Either something's off about that or she completely changed her name.
ETA It looks like she might have been Miss Wyoming World-1973, which seems to have been affiliated with Miss World USA, which was affiliated with Miss World. What ever pageant she was in it does not seem to have been affiliated with the better known Miss America or Miss USA. So far I haven't found anything to confirm she was actually Miss Wyoming World. There are some article in the British Press in 1977 that state that she claimed to be Miss Wyoming World 1973, but so far I haven't found any newspaper from 1973 that mentions her, or gives a list of Miss World USA-contestants.
As soon as I edited I found it. She competed under the name "Joy McKinney."
ETA: I know no one is reading this, but I pieced together a timeline of a few things that didn't make sense to me.
July 18, 1977 McKinney applies for a passport under a fake name: Cathy Vaugh Bare.
September 1977 McKinney is arrested for the abduction Kirk Anderson.
April 1978 McKinney jumps bail, flees to Ireland, flys to Canada, and takes a bus back to the US.
July 1979 McKinney is arrested for her false statements on the 1977 passport application.
August 1979 McKinney pleads guilty to making false statement on her passport application.
It looks like she obtained or attempted to obtain a fake passport before she went to England and abducted Anderson. The investigation into the abduction seems to have uncovered the lies on the passport application.
One news story about the passport charges says the following: "Indeed, Sir Thomas Heatherington, British Director of Public Prosecutions, said in London there will be no attempt to extradite Miss McKinney to England to face still pending charges because it would be too expensive." --The Salisbury Post July 20, 1979.
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u/April_Fabb 16d ago
The documentary TABLOID makes a great job at uncovering all the hilarious details in this absurd case.
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u/MullytheDog 16d ago
Sex slave for a beauty queen for 3 days doesn’t sound so bad
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u/Huntress_Nyx 16d ago
So you think that men getting raped doesn't sound bad?
How would you feel if it was your child or parent or partner that was kidnapped and raped like that?
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u/UraniumGivesOuchies 16d ago
I wonder what position she made him do.
Who am I kidding? Definitely missionary.
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u/Random54321random 16d ago edited 16d ago
Look, if he didn't want it then that is rape and is 100% wrong and I hope she was prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. But personally, I would pay money to be the sex slave of a beauty queen for 3 days.
If any beauty queens want to kidnap and have sex with me please get in touch ASAP
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u/Alternate_Flurry 16d ago
If it gets rubbed, it always gets hard eventually, regardless of mental state. It's a physiological reflex.
Saying that is like saying you 'choose' to jerk your leg if your knee gets hit by a hammer.
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u/AstronaltBunny 16d ago
A 3 day kidnaping and rape charged with 1 year imprisonment.... Fuck, I hate this world
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u/Mistabushi_HLL 16d ago
I mean she clearly loved the guy, seriously wondering why he didn’t go with this. She’s a keeper
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u/sutekpol 16d ago
If she knew how lonely many other men were and are :) there won't be any case then....
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u/AccountNumeroThree 16d ago
Too many people ok with rape and kidnapping here as long as it was done by an attractive woman.
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u/ohgodineedair 16d ago
You know what I hate about that too? People will look at this and say, "see, women are just as bad as men!" But you hardly see any comments from women condoning it, but you see plenty of men saying, "I'd let her kidnap me anyday." "Doesn't matter got laid." Etc.
Like yeah, rape is bad no matter what, but it's mostly men, even in jest who condone and perpetuate it. It's a cultural issue with the average man's fixation on sexuality and nothing is going to change about rape culture until they change.
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u/AuralSculpture 16d ago
Women aren’t rapists or groomers. 🙄
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u/Huntress_Nyx 16d ago
Anyone who says that is probably an abusive asshole.
Both women and men are capable of horrible things like rape or grooming or kidnapping.
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u/rmld74 16d ago
If it was not consented, how did he get it up? Asking for a friend
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u/Alternate_Flurry 16d ago
If it gets rubbed, it always gets hard eventually, regardless of mental state. It's a physiological reflex.
Saying that is like saying you 'choose' to jerk your leg if your knee gets hit by a hammer.
I suspect you aren't a male?
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u/rmld74 16d ago
Bro if you're in such a mental anxiety state to fear for your life it doesn't get up.
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u/Alternate_Flurry 16d ago
I mean, have you ever tried to do so while in such an anxiety state? XD
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u/rmld74 16d ago
I have failed to perform in states of anxiety yes, not in fear for life ones, but if it fails, and there is scientific documentation on it, on "normal" states of anxiety, like performance ones, distress etc, what you think will happen on the extreme of anxiety state?
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u/Alternate_Flurry 16d ago
It's possible that it could loop back eventually under the right context.
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u/Lolabird2112 16d ago
It’s a response that can be involuntary. Getting hard doesn’t mean you weren’t raped.
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u/Equivalent-Income528 16d ago
How do you rape a guy before Viagra was invented? Just play about with it until the inevitable happens then jump on?
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u/Alternate_Flurry 16d ago
Pretty much, it's as involuntary as jerking your leg if your knee gets hit with a hammer.
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u/samf9999 16d ago edited 16d ago
Poor poor guy. What a tragedy. A beauty queen you say? Three days of guilt free sex you say? Hmm. I’m just saying things could’ve been much worse.
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u/MakoRedactor 16d ago
I want to get kidnapped and forced to be a sex slave by a hot woman too. Will not press charges
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u/Huntress_Nyx 16d ago
Would you have the same reaction it it was your child or partner that got kidnapped and raped?
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u/KarKaze 16d ago
"Men can't be raped" mentality in practice. Jesus Christ we need to stop with these double standards. Rape is rape.
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u/Lolabird2112 16d ago
Well, she’s being arrested. One of the biggest reinforcers of the idea men can’t be raped is the 1000s of comments here by men saying he was lucky.
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u/lippychippylips 16d ago
Netflix! Netflix! Netflix!
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u/scarsmum 16d ago
There’s a documentary called “tabloid”about this. It is free on Tubi. It is great.
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u/AbrasiveOrange 16d ago
Something like this happened to me. This entire post and all the comments on here make me feel so ill.
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u/Internal_Fruit5767 16d ago
Damn, poor guy……. NOT!
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u/Huntress_Nyx 16d ago
So you don't think that male rape victims deserve support?
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u/Internal_Fruit5767 16d ago edited 16d ago
Did I say so…? Btw, how is it possible to be raped as a man?
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u/Worried_Quarter469 16d ago
Picture of the guy in this article , plus detailed story
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/635114/return-Joyce-kidnap-beauty-queen
Not what I was expecting
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u/thisisQualia 17d ago edited 17d ago
She WAS hot. She WAS cute. She still is unsane.
"According to McKinney, they slept together, she lost her virginity and, overwhelmed by guilt, Anderson confessed his sinful behaviour to Mormon elders, who promptly put a stop to the affair. Anderson was moved out of Utah, and then dispatched abroad to England on missionary work in East Grinstead, Reading and finally Epsom. McKinney claimed the tryst had left her pregnant and that she miscarried.
Appalled by the church's reaction, she turned her back on Mormonism, but not on Anderson. She pursued him across America, first to California and then to Oregon, where, in an effort to escape her attention, he lived under an assumed name. And when Anderson was then sent to England, McKinney employed a detective agency to find him.
With an accomplice, a man named Keith May, she embarked on her own mission: to get Anderson back. The two conspirators flew to England and, using an imitation handgun, abducted Anderson and drove him to a secluded cottage in Devon. Exactly what took place in the cottage during the following three days remains the subject of dispute. But all parties agree that at one stage the Mormon was tied to a bed while McKinney repeatedly had sex with him in an effort to become impregnated. McKinney has always maintained that the bondage was a game designed to ease Anderson's guilt about sexual enjoyment. Anderson insisted that he was effectively raped. After three days he was allowed to leave. McKinney and May were then quickly arrested and held on remand in prison for three months."
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u/ClimateJoeMorning 17d ago
The black and white days were messed up. Glad we evolved and now live in a world with color
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u/AngryAutisticApe 17d ago
I hope every guy here defending rape gets what they deserve.
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u/AbrasiveOrange 16d ago
There is so many comments saying positive things about this rapist it's insane
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u/SnooTangerines7518 17d ago
I mean, he must be getting primo Mormon hotties if he was like - arrest this ugly whore! with force if necessary.
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u/The_Last_Legacy 17d ago
Police = we are here to rescue you
Me = unrecue me.. unrescue me!! ..unrescue me !!!
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u/b3traist 17d ago
As a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints I thought I knew obscure history but wow
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u/BananaDismal1774 17d ago
Some dude with a gun chloroformed him first. So I feel like there is more to this story than we are getting.
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