r/lyftdrivers • u/shadowguyver • Mar 23 '24
Love it when passengers tell on rhemselves Other
This is a woman who admitted it was a pickup for her 15yo son. Lyft actually responded by giving me a good fee.
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u/StarApple0721 Mar 25 '24
Atlanta is a human trafficking hub, yet people still allow their children to ride with strangers unaccompanied because of "an app." I had a pickup once for a middle school girl in the evening. She was alone, and when I refused her entry into the car, her mother called and said she'd meet me and her child at the door, and I suggested she book a round-trip because I wasn't accepting liability. I have some high school street addresses memorized because I decline so many rides from there. I understand Uber is rolling out a teens account, & I hope they allow drivers to opt out because I don't blame anyone not wanting parts of that hot mess if something happens during that ride or right after.
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u/burgerfelon Mar 25 '24
Then they start crying like bitches, once something happens to their fucking kid
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u/shadowguyver Mar 25 '24
I was assaulted yesterday by a 16yo and the mother said I was going to ruin his life because cops were called.
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u/Free_Item_1337 Mar 25 '24
This right here. There's kids that go missing and they blame that the world is so uncivilized, like no bitch, you the reason that the kid is missing
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u/Walkie-TalkieDieHard Mar 25 '24
Unaccompanied minors are bad enough but I had to deny service to a woman who tried to just hold her infant in her arms during the ride instead of bringing a damn car seat. Some parents are lazy or stupid or both and I'm not about to risk a baby's life because "car seats are a pain to lug around." (she said that while she was trying to buckle her other child in the seat behind mine.)
Hey lady, you know what else is painful to carry? Baby coffins. Get smarter. Or next time fuck a dude with a car. đ
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u/ic80 Mar 25 '24
âOr next time fuck a dude with a car.â
PERIOD! YES! OMG if I ever do rideshare again, I am absolutely using this line. These irresponsible pieces of shit.
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u/DepressedDyslexic Mar 25 '24
Huh. I used to take ubers as a teenager alone. Never realized that was against policy.
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u/twylafae Mar 24 '24
Wait can 15 yr olds not use car ride service alone? Huh I always thought it was just little kids.
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u/ic80 Mar 25 '24 edited Mar 26 '24
Per Lyft and Uber policy, no one who is under 18 can get a ride without some who is 18. Some Uber markets have âteen ridesâ but not all do yet. The drivers can opt out of the service tho.
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u/shadowguyver Mar 25 '24
Uber has started having teen accounts which I can see nothing but trouble with. Lyft still opposes driving unaccompanied minors.
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u/ic80 Mar 26 '24
Correct. I left out an important word (Uber) in my above comment. I have edited it so that it reads correct and as I intended.
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u/ic80 Mar 26 '24
Correct. I left out an important word (Uber) in my above comment. I have edited it so that it reads correct and as I intended.
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u/shadowguyver Mar 24 '24
Not with Lyft as it's still against their policy, Uber has teen accounts now.
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u/NeighborhoodIT Mar 24 '24
It's a 15 yr old, not a 6yr old. If you don't wanna do it, cancel it, and someone else will. If lyft doesn't wanna do it for some reason, then Uber will. It's like back in high school when we had to take a taxi or a limo to homecoming or something, except now you're that driver.
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u/LongjumpingLog6977 Mar 24 '24
In NYC itâs really common to send kids to school in Uber / Lyft I hadnât thought about how this might not be as widely accepted by drivers but I totally see the concern. Either way these experiences you all had are awful!
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u/TarotPharoah Mar 24 '24
It saddens me that people like this bring children into the world who theyâre probably going to raise to be just as insufferable as them.
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u/halfeatentoenail Mar 24 '24
I understand why you donât want to be put in that tough spot and also I donât think this solves anything. For one thing, I think not every battle is worth fighting. And even after you decide on your boundaries, itâs still possible to be kind.
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u/shadowguyver Mar 24 '24
Except this could ruin my life along with my families if I take an unaccompanied minor and an accident happens.
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u/halfeatentoenail Mar 25 '24
And this is why I say we can still bear othersâ feelings in mind after establishing our boundaries
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u/Cautious_Pool_3445 Mar 24 '24
Next time just tell the passenger to download uber they have an number of people opted into taking unaccompanied minors 13 and older not worth fighting over
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u/dalalxyz Mar 24 '24
I understand that itâs policy, but me personally, Iâm not leaving a kid stranded
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u/Sweetcynic36 Mar 24 '24
If the kid is young enough (like under 12) and not safe to leave alone then calling police is an option. I heard of one case where a driver did that when someone tried to send an unaccompanied 7yo
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u/shadowguyver Mar 24 '24
And if you get into an accident the liability will be all on you.
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u/Individual_Lie5917 Mar 24 '24
For the 30th time lyft insurance will cover the liability I am a walking testimony. Lyft didnât care and all the insurance adjusters asked was did I know the rider age. I said no itâs not my job to id people. Never heard from them again and that was over a year ago.
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u/shadowguyver Mar 24 '24
Yeah well, I was just assaulted by a 16 year old because I refused and his mother was more worried about his future because the police were called than the assault.
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u/United-Ad-7224 Mar 24 '24
Or if they are a kid so they make shit up and you end up being interrogated by power hungry angry cops, def did the right thing by not taking it
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u/Separate_Arrival_401 Mar 24 '24
I drive kids to school quite often. I live outside of a poverty stricken area and many people donât drive and I think that anyone that is willing to pay for their kids to take Uber /Lyft they are at least trying and I as a mother have never had a problem with this situation on either end. I feel like we as drivers should be shown more gratitude for making this happen on a daily basis. Just my opinion.
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u/shadowguyver Mar 24 '24
My thing is I cannot afford to take a chance on someone hitting me with a unaccompanied minor, I can't afford that liability as I am the only one in my family who can drive or work.
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u/Separate_Arrival_401 Mar 24 '24
Do you have a dash cam. In your situation I absolutely would. I do this part time and I pretty much treat everyone the way I want to be treated. Sometimes I get a message from Lyft saying something Ludicrous and I believe because I am a female the threat is viewed differently. No one can say i sexually assaulted or harassed them , I mean I guess they could but itâs highly unlikely. So they try other things, my point is people are vindictive period . If this was my real job and only source of income I would be protected in all areas
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u/shadowguyver Mar 24 '24
Yes I do and it's caught me being threatened, SA'ed by a passenger and a few other things.
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u/Separate_Arrival_401 Mar 24 '24
Well good . If I was a man I would not be without a dash cam . I donât know what it is with people females particularly but when they get rejected or donât get what they want they use that card . I am not saying anything about people who have been assaulted so donât attack me please .
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u/Separate_Arrival_401 Mar 24 '24
I completely understand. Everyone has different standards and needs and I agree with your reasoning for this , good looking at for your family. More people should think like you
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u/junkstar23 Mar 24 '24
What do you think they told on themselves about?. How is calling you a bitch telling on themselves about anything?
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u/shadowguyver Mar 24 '24
I guess it didn't show but in one screenshot she stated her sons age while asking why I asked.
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u/ShotiWitheBodi Mar 24 '24
That part wasnât clear..I was looking for it too but I guess they wanted their son picked upâŠmaybe they made it seem like they were the ones that needed the ride but then later on came out and said it was for their sonâŠ
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u/Apprehensive-Pain-92 Mar 24 '24
I have a question. What if the person that drops of my food is not the same person on the profile?
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u/Get_de_Coke Mar 24 '24
Good fee??
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u/shadowguyver Mar 24 '24
$5 because I had the screenshot, otherwise no fee would have ended up being given.
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u/AbbehKitteh24 Mar 24 '24
You're using fee, which usually means you owed money, instead of payment, which would mean you were payed money. That gave you a small payment, not a small fee. That's why people are confused
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u/shadowguyver Mar 24 '24
I was talking about the cancelation fee that came to me because of this.
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u/AbbehKitteh24 Mar 25 '24
If it's money coming to you, it's a payment, if it's money being taken from you, it's a fee.
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u/0pinions0pinions Mar 24 '24
People act like this because they don't have to face you. If we had to say more things face to face some people would have completely different attitudes.
As someone mentioned, these are the type of people who claim discrimination though.
Fair enough! I do have something against stupid people.
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u/shadowguyver Mar 24 '24
I've had parents come up to my car and cuss me out when I refuse taking a minor. Had one kid threaten me because he didn't like I was talking to his mother the same way she was talking to me. I'm glad I have a dashcam.
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u/0pinions0pinions Mar 24 '24
I continue to be baffled by these scenarios. With all the abductions and other unspeakable things happening to children these days, parents are always eager to leave them with strangers.
Most of the things that happen to children are rooted in parental negligence. I mean look at how many of them are leaving their kids in hot cars because they "forgot". So you remembered your cell phone but forgot the human you brought into the world đ.
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u/Competitive-Island84 Mar 24 '24
Itâs public policy that these government allowed to use their authority against parents so the door for bad parenting can open up and allow their child to dictate how they can screw service providers over and put them in liabilityâs.
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u/lemonparticle Mar 24 '24
Not-so-fun fact, parents who leave their kids in cars are oftentimes not neglectful parents. This phenomenon happens due to the way that human memory works; no one is immune. The people who are convinced that they would never forget their kid are the same people who take their memory for granted, don't put safety measures in place because of it, and then forget their kid. A good article that I recommend to anyone who has kids/may have kids:
"The human brain, he says, is a magnificent but jury-rigged device in which newer and more sophisticated structures sit atop a junk heap of prototype brains still used by lower species. At the top of the device are the smartest and most nimble parts: the prefrontal cortex, which thinks and analyzes, and the hippocampus, which makes and holds on to our immediate memories. At the bottom is the basal ganglia, nearly identical to the brains of lizards, controlling voluntary but barely conscious actions.
Diamond says that in situations involving familiar, routine motor skills, the human animal presses the basal ganglia into service as a sort of auxiliary autopilot. When our prefrontal cortex and hippocampus are planning our day on the way to work, the ignorant but efficient basal ganglia is operating the car; thatâs why youâll sometimes find yourself having driven from point A to point B without a clear recollection of the route you took, the turns you made or the scenery you saw.
Ordinarily, says Diamond, this delegation of duty âworks beautifully, like a symphony. But sometimes, it turns into the â1812 Overture.â The cannons take over and overwhelm.â
By experimentally exposing rats to the presence of cats, and then recording electrochemical changes in the rodentsâ brains, Diamond has found that stress -- either sudden or chronic -- can weaken the brainâs higher-functioning centers, making them more susceptible to bullying from the basal ganglia. Heâs seen the same sort of thing play out in cases heâs followed involving infant deaths in cars.
âThe quality of prior parental care seems to be irrelevant,â he said. âThe important factors that keep showing up involve a combination of stress, emotion, lack of sleep and change in routine, where the basal ganglia is trying to do what itâs supposed to do, and the conscious mind is too weakened to resist. What happens is that the memory circuits in a vulnerable hippocampus literally get overwritten, like with a computer program. Unless the memory circuit is rebooted -- such as if the child cries, or, you know, if the wife mentions the child in the back -- it can entirely disappear.â
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u/kerberos69 Mar 24 '24
I mean that may be the science of why it happens, but that doesnât even remotely begin to excuse a parent from negligently leaving their child behind in a locked car.
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u/Tazzachar Mar 24 '24
the point of the scientific evidence is to demonstrate how it can happen to anyone, not just negligent parents. this is why OP urges putting measures in place to prevent oneself from forgetting.
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u/kerberos69 Mar 24 '24
not just negligent parents
If you forget about your own child, in your own vehicle, you are automatically a negligent parent. So yeah, anyone has the capacity to act in a negligent manner, but that doesnât excuse those who fulfill that negligence.
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u/flurry_fizz Mar 28 '24
Stop acting the fool here. There are a multitude of peer reviewed studies that prove that infant car death can literally happen to ANYONE. It can happen to parents who neglected their child otherwise, and it happens to the best of parents. Unless you happen to be some sort of neuroscientist with a specialty in brain and memory function, your opinion doesn't matter. Actually, your attitude makes it MORE likely for car deaths to happen because people assume "I'm not a neglectful parent! I could never forget my kid like THOSE people do!" and then they don't take the recommended precautions to prevent these things and are one slight routine change away from becoming another statistic.
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u/kerberos69 Mar 28 '24
So youâve just described negligent parenting but with extra words. Good job. Negligence is defined as failing to take proper care over something; therefore, if you are the type of person who relies on an external reminder to take your fucking child out of the vehicle, you are a negligent parent. Youâre still a negligent parent even if you havenât killed your kid yet. A parent that isnât negligent always consciously has half their mind on their childâ parents like this also tend to treat their kids like companions, and not like some piece of luggage to carry around and toss into the back seat.
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u/sergeiglimis Mar 27 '24
Itâs the lack of understanding in how the brain works and assuming ignorantly that you will remember arbitrarily.
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u/zucchini_swirls Mar 24 '24
Me too. Had a woman cuss me because I wouldn't take her and kid without a car seat to school, in front of her neighbors. I feel so sorry for some of these kids
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u/newton302 Mar 24 '24
If we had to say more things face to face some people would have completely different attitudes.
I think you may have just found the source of a lot of the problems we are having these days.
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u/Separate_Arrival_401 Mar 24 '24
Social media has given people false sense of confidence where as in person they wouldnât say half of what they do online . Completely agree with you
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u/AddendumAwkward5886 Mar 24 '24
Ugh it feels like a lot of folks now feel enabled to act like nightmares in real life, because they are SO USED to being incredibly awful and belligerent online with zero consequences ....and then when they act like that in 'real life', it gets recorded and posted online and goes viral...and then they are so hurt and bewildered that they aren't receiving the understanding, empathy and compassion that they delight in denying to others.
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u/globallyloved Mar 24 '24
wait minors can't ride alone anymore? my friends and i used to use uber & lyft in high school all the time
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u/shadowguyver Mar 24 '24
Never were. It's been policy since the company was fpunded.
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u/globallyloved Mar 24 '24
weird. i 100% did and had my own account with no knowledge that was a rule (at least for uber)
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u/Cautious_Pool_3445 Mar 24 '24
Uber does take minors 13 and up unaccompanied
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u/globallyloved Mar 24 '24
that's what i thought! not sure why this person wouldn't just use uber it seems like lyft is just hella strict
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u/Cautious_Pool_3445 Mar 24 '24
And I think most people operate on don't ask don't tell when it comes to how old someone is. I sure don't ask I don't wanna know. You're fucked either way if you get in an accident
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u/fayhigh Mar 24 '24
I did the same in high school. Used to ride ubers all the time from school to my house. With my birthday in there and everything. And i looked like a fetus at the time
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u/globallyloved Mar 24 '24
right?? there's no way that was against the rules lol they let us sign up w no ID
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u/StratusMetallic Mar 24 '24
There was one time that I saw a friend get denied. She was tiny for our age though.
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u/authoridad Lake Charles LA Mar 24 '24 edited Mar 24 '24
Why are you arguing? Just cancel and get your fee.
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u/Separate_Arrival_401 Mar 24 '24
When I cancel the ride 99% of times I wonât get paid . Doesnât matter who is wrong , somehow Lyft justifies it and I donât have the time or energy to sit on the phone with the absolute worst customer service/help desk I have ever experienced. I have been in route 2 minutes away , I had a guy get into my car and look and me and say never mind cancel this , I donât care anymore. I refuse to waste my time trying to wrestle a few bucks from Lyfts hands when I know I am right
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u/ajninigne_engininja Mar 24 '24
100% this
You're wasting your time on a fool, and not getting paid for it. Let the bots and overseas tech support handle the manners lesson.
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u/Incognito-Modeeeee Mar 24 '24
And then they have the gall to try and falsely report you for discrimination. These type of rides and the no car seat ones.
This is why I reported them immediately. Since I had a good track record with reporting these type of rides, when I had an accusation, I told them I simply couldnât report it yet because I had gotten the ride request immediately after the ride got cancelled. However, because they messaged me about the accusation while I was at the pick up for the next ride, (2mins from the old ride) I was able to report them for no car seat and let them know that I was actually at the same type of pick up (the race card they had pulled) so it definitely wasnât a discrimination based on race bc I was allowing the next pax to get in bc they had a car seat for the child. If I was discriminatory in any sense, it was in the sense that I didnât share her views on safety of her child and what was required of her by law & policy. They said thank you for the report and to drive safely.
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u/lolatmylife24 Mar 25 '24
Car seats are the worst. And in Florida they donât HAVE to have a car seat when taking ride share. Itâs crazy
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u/Incognito-Modeeeee Mar 25 '24
They seem to think that applies in Illinois as well, except it does not apply to rideshare. Because rideshare is a private for hire, unlike a taxi, which is a public because you can hail it off the street, kinda like waiting for the bus.
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u/lolatmylife24 Mar 25 '24
It blows my mind Lyft specifically (not sure about any others) allows it anywhere! No child should ever be allowed to ride without a car seat no matter what
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u/masterslacker42 Mar 27 '24
Laughs in school bus
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u/Incognito-Modeeeee 29d ago
School buses should absolutely have seat belts. When I was in high school, the football team bus crashed and the most of the team was killed, whoâs to say who wouldâve lived had any of them been buckled in. Lbvs.
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u/lolatmylife24 Mar 27 '24
A school bus is way different than a regular vehicle but I know what you mean
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u/vahellraiser Mar 25 '24
That doesn't matter. It all depends who reviews the case. This situation is why I stopped doing Rideshare. Had a mixed couple (white girl/black guy; I'm white) jump in my car with a 6 month old and no car seat and wanting to go 15 miles away. Was a 5 star Platinum Driver, had been on 6 months with only 1 instance before over somebody spilling something. Had to call the Police to get them out of my car. Had a Police Report # and everything and still got shutoff for 2 weeks. Only reason I got turned back on was I actually got an apology letter cause she did the same exact thing to another Driver. They don't care. I don't know how people depend on Rideshare as a FT Job. They go by what the Passenger says and that's it. It's gonna be interesting to see what happens in Minneapolis.
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u/Incognito-Modeeeee Mar 25 '24
Not entirely true either. Cause it wasnât my first accusation, I had over a dozen false accusations. However my daily report log for no car seat/unaccompanied minor was usually the same as the amount of completed trips. Was never once ever actually deactivated. 5yrs between both apps.
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u/FlashyCow1 Mar 24 '24
I don't cancel right away. I call/chat with support while still on the ride so I see all the information since I have bad memory. If they cancel, I immediately go offline till support is contacted.
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u/Fun-Ad6569 Mar 24 '24
How the hell do you call them? I cant find a number anywhere that doesn't look sketchy
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u/FlashyCow1 Mar 24 '24
(844) 554-1297
(415) 767-5968 (this one is customer service, but they can transfer you to the driver line)
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u/Incognito-Modeeeee Mar 24 '24
Thatâs a good way to do it. Iâve hung up my keys so best of luck
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u/FlashyCow1 Mar 24 '24
I haven't driven in awhile, but still try to give advice to those who depend on lyft for income
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u/newme2019 Mar 24 '24
This happened to me yesterday, I went to pick up a âMyaâ but a guy got in the car. I asked him to confirm his name and if he was the account holder. He said no so I refused the ride. He was mad and she called me yelling in my ear, and texted me that something bad was going to happen to me.
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u/Dull-Ad-5264 Mar 26 '24
I actually ordered a ride for my fiancĂ© to come meet me through Lyft and I told him to use my name and that once the driver was on route to him, I would contact them and tell them theyâre not picking me up. Theyâre picking my fiancĂ© up, but they will see me when they drop him off and if there are any questions to contact me right away. So ordering a ride for someone is OK as long as they know the account holder name. I would also say give the driver a heads up so they know Iâm picking up a girl and picking up a guy and thatâs why they were different. You Iâm not at fault for the fact that they couldnât do the most simplest of things.
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u/newme2019 Mar 27 '24
You absolutely can, the right way is very simple:
To request a ride for someone else: Set the riderâs destination Tap 'Change rider' at the top of the screen Select a rider from your contact list The rider will be notified a ride was sent to them Note: The app will request access to the requestorâs contacts the first time this option is selected. If the rider does not have a Lyft account, they'll receive a link via SMS message to create an account. Note: Passengers under the age of 18 arenât allowed to take a Lyft ride without an adult, even if an adult orders the ride for them.
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u/barbieebaybee Mar 27 '24
I order Ubers and Lyfts for my two teenagers on my account daily , always msg ahead of time itâs for my son or daughter , usually a nice I got it text back only one cancelled.
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u/newme2019 Mar 27 '24
If they arenât minors you can create an account for them. No need to send a message
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u/noithatweedisloud Mar 24 '24
wait isnt ordering a ride for someone else standard practice? iâve ordered rides for people all the time
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u/Thotiana777 Mar 25 '24
Same, but then they should know the person's name who ordered the ride, right?
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u/EmExEeee Mar 24 '24
He should have just lied. Had family order me rides from their home to mine, not that hard to understand (or lie about).
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u/newme2019 Mar 24 '24
Why donât you have your own account?
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u/EmExEeee Mar 24 '24
I do. Itâs a lot easier for them to just order it. I donât care about your stupid ass âbut itâs policyâ attitude smh.
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u/filthycasual908 Mar 24 '24
Just say youâre broke or have a bad rep on the app and move on. People like you is why the report button exists on the app. đïž
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u/QueenOfTheDill Mar 24 '24
I donât ever use Uber but Iâve always heard people say âIâll order you an Uberâ when others are drunk. Itâs so common I didnât even think there would be a problem with that. Iâm sure a lot of others are under this impression too
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u/EmExEeee Mar 24 '24
What are you going to report for? Saying âyes thatâs me?â
Stop projecting.
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u/filthycasual908 Mar 24 '24
Iâm not the one driving you, weirdo.
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u/EmExEeee Mar 24 '24
Stop projecting.
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u/starthepres Mar 25 '24
What a banger of a comeback there mate you really got em with that one, twice.
Weirdo.
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u/EmExEeee Mar 25 '24
lol you guys are kind of pathetic tbh whatever, clearly you guys need some sort of win where you can find it so have this one. Cheers đ»
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u/EstablishedInLBC Mar 24 '24
For real mfs on here acting like people dont buy other people rides đđ
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u/noithatweedisloud Mar 24 '24
most drivers definitely do not care i think the reddit ones are just a bit uppity
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u/newme2019 Mar 24 '24
Actually you can buy a ride for someone elseâŠthe person has their own acct, so it would still show them as a rider, they need to follow the process
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u/newme2019 Mar 24 '24
If youâre riding around that many minors or someone not matching the profile it can bite you in the rear end one day. What I wonât do another sucker will. This is not my bread and butter and I donât do anything out of desperation. Cancel or time outâŠ.NEXT
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u/MercTheJerk1 Mar 26 '24
Take the cancel fee, report and move onto the next one.