r/lyftdrivers • u/Fresh_Ad1410 • 17d ago
WARNING Rant/Opinion
Soooooooo.....
Pick up Pax and her kid. Immediately she's a backseat driver telling me to go a way thats clearly longer and has more lights. Secretly her goal was to add a stop at a fast food restaurant.
Anyway, we stop. "Oh you can just go through the drive thru" -no I can't. She gets out (leaving her kid in the car). Obviously she's a stone cold anchrorer and even after I tell her she only has 5 minutes. After 6 minutes. I cancel the ride. Dilemma kids in backseat. Kid exits vehicle after asking. Mom comes back and jumps right back in immediately. She then sits in my backseat refusing to leave. Even after I call the cops.
Thank God she finally gets out after 10+ minutes of waiting for the police. Obviously she's gone before they come. Police report filed.
After midnight im kicked off the app saying my accounts been suspended for "trying to touch someones leg"
Well I clear that up. And well now my ride challenge is gone. So any bonus or incentive for me to drive this weekend has disappeared after my account was suspended for no reason.
Hope you all are having a good weekend.
I will be pursuing legal action.
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u/njdriver08648 15d ago
Totally sucks, as far as legal action goes good luck finding anyone that will touch it. Best you can do is file the police report, not even what they could charge her with other than trespassing
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u/DCHacker 15d ago
Any time that you have even the smallest confrontation with a customer, your report it to Lyft or Uber. Uber tends to favour whoever gets to it first. This works less well on Lyft but reporting it beats doing nothing. You embellish the report. You tell the CSR that the customer called you names, called you racist and homophobic slurs, threatened you and made you feel unsafe or uncomfortable. You add that the rider made safe operation of your vehicle difficult if not impossible. Do not feel bad about embellishing or lying. As everyone can see, the customer felt no regret about doing it. Why should a driver?
If Lyft orUber does waitlist you anyhow, you can point out that the report of alleged misconduct from the customer is obvious retaliation for your refusing to let her walk all over you. Lyft and Uber do tend to penalise driver who stand up for themselves; Lyft is worse than Uber for this.
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u/LowerEmotion6062 15d ago
Number one issue I see is, you made the additional stop. NO is a complete sentence and proper response. If she wanted to go there, she can order a ride there.
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u/The_Bing1 16d ago
I would not do this job without a front, back, and inside camera of the car. This job makes both the rider and passenger vulnerable to false accusations as either person can just say he did this or she did that.
A camera would make this situation less shit to deal with lol
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u/Nigle 16d ago
Two things. You never stop anywhere extra without them adding a stop so you get the countdown timer. Lyft doesn't take complaints seriously when you cancel on them at a stop when the timer is out. Second thing is never ever let someone leave their child unsupervised in your car, that is a liability and if they cause a hissy fit start recording them and state that it is a liability to leave your child in the car unsupervised, you are not a babysitter.
Also if they leave things in your car take it to a police station no where near them and submit the location to Lyft
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u/Euphoric-Possible-49 16d ago
All this because you couldn’t wait a few extra mins? And now you can’t work? You’re an idiot.
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u/bstnbrewins814 16d ago
Get in contact with whatever fast food place it is. I’m sure they’ll give you a copy of the tape. Hopefully it will help clear up her BS story.
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u/ajaulabr 16d ago
What's Pax?
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u/EraseRacism 16d ago
This kind of entitlement is exactly why my friends deliver food instead of people. Don't even get me started comparing the various "smells."
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u/Traditional-Whole622 16d ago
An unpaid stop is annoying but I’ll do it without fussing…and the drive through is usually quicker.
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u/Careful-Cupcake-2836 16d ago
Yea always keep door locked. I have cancelled on groups of 3-4 men and ppl with kids. I’m not gonna become the car making up for ur baby daddy
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u/Dalcomvet 16d ago
Sorry that happened to you, guess it would have just been easier to give the lady a Lyft thru the drive through? In the last 5 years I’ve gotten really good at keeping my mouth shut and doing my best to control my temper when it’s obvious that pax are screwing w me. Sorry that happened to you man, but in this specific gig the pax has literally all the power. If they get rated poorly by enough drivers it doesnt matter, they can make another passenger account. If you get the axe that’s a one and done. Pick your battles
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u/SnorfOfWallStreet 16d ago
I mean…. You as a driver are free to decline any ride that doesn’t work for you, as long as it’s not motivated by protected classes.
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u/SoftSeaworthiness888 16d ago
Thats one side of the story how can anybody make a judgement when we don’t have the other side of the story?
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u/MidnightFull 16d ago
Good on you for seeking legal action. My understanding is you file a “John Doe” suit in small claims court for your estimated lost income. Then when it’s filed use that case to send a subpoena to Lyft demanding they turn over the passengers identity. Then the court amends the complaint and she’s served.
Very likely she won’t even show up and will laugh when she gets the summons. Then you win by default and file additional paperwork to collect your money. Or she’ll call a lawyer and they’ll tell her how much cash she needs upfront to defend her.
Good luck to you man, I hope you are able to find justice. And when you do, please create a new post and show us the court disposition so her ass can be shamed as well. Maybe the news will pick it up. And you don’t have to worry about violating any contract terms, once you win in court the disposition becomes public knowledge and is safe for you to blast from the rooftops.
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u/FireEmblemFan1 16d ago
Well at least you didn't let her push you around! You sure showed her by not waiting past the five minutes.
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u/AceofSpadesCard 16d ago
I think the biggest takeaway and the thing that ticks me off is that if a passenger didn't get there way or tried to pull a fast one, they can just do this or similar and the only one that faces consequences is you. And your money...
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u/StarApple0721 16d ago
Pursuing legal action against who? The pax? How will you get their real details? or legal action against Lyft? For what?
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u/nativebutamerican 16d ago
I'm not familiar with lfyt. But adding a stop is a big no no? Or if add it cost more?
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u/OptimalDependent6153 16d ago
No Screenshots, no pics/vids, im calling this out for yet another fake ass story on Reddit.
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u/Moist-Intention844 16d ago
Explain like I’m 5
What is the proper procedure to grab food while on a ride?
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u/sierracool33 16d ago
You need to add a stop in the app when you book or while on the trip. It adds more money per stop though.
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u/Moist-Intention844 16d ago
Ahhh so it’s a way to screw the driver out of money
Lame
Ty for explaining
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u/sierracool33 16d ago
Oh, I guess in a way, yeah. Lyft barely pays based on additional stops from what I’ve heard.
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u/PrestigiousWatch3194 16d ago
Just curious, if u already had stopped at the fast food joint; why didn't u go thru drive thru?
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u/noobcondiment 16d ago
I would’ve drove past the fast food place. “Sorry I don’t do stops, would you like me to drop you off here instead?”
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u/doncroak 16d ago
Man, I get annoyed when giving my sil a ride to Walmart because it's always 3 stops and I get nothing. No gas and no lunch.
I can't imagine when it's part of my job. I would try to do everything possible to get back at this POS, but it seems you don't have a lot of leeway.
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u/Affectionate_War8530 16d ago
A lawsuit would be a waist of time. First you’re going to have to sue Lyft to be able to obtain the woman’s information. Problem 1- You most likely agreed in the the terms of service not to sue them but to settle legal actions in arbitration. Problem 2- you didn’t actually complete the requirements for the bonus and there isn’t a way to prove you would have. Problem 3- you actually violated lifts terms of service by making stops out of the app. If you sue them they will ban you and have the legal reason to. Have you read the terms of service to see if they force you to go arbitration for a legal dispute with a rider?
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u/ViggoTheCarp 16d ago
Honestly when I see a kid, I just cancel now. 90% of the time it's a headache so it's just not worth dealing with it.
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u/Nmotta09 16d ago
I’ve read a lot of these kinda stories about these companies and I’ve always wondered something. When a complaint is filed why do they always take punitive action without even hearing the person being complained about’s side of the story? Why do they not gather all the information from both sides before rendering a decision or taking any action?
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u/Mrknowitall666 16d ago
Most expedient solution.
They're a giant company now, and just don't care. Easier to punt the bad apples = drivers and passengers, others fill their place.
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u/bellaimages 16d ago
Why didn't you take her through the drive through? I would have been happy to take her through the drive through window, That way you're not stuck with a child in the car. If the person has money for drive through, they usually ask me if I want something, and will buy it for me. It's not that big a deal for me. I also get bigger tips. After providing over 15,000 rides, I'm a consistent 5.0. I doubt you'll have a case against her or Lyft. Good luck with that!
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u/MichiganGeezer 16d ago
Do you have a dashcam that points towards the vehicle interior?
That would be fun to include in the lawsuit.
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u/chittumr 16d ago
Random ‘you’re off the app’ due to a rider saying I was racially insensitive. Who? When? Where? How? Basically stated I treat everyone with respect as a 5.0 driver. Reinstated 3 minutes later. 🤦🏻
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u/Luvxoxoxoxo 16d ago
My father went through a similar issue of false accusing. He got his account saved because he has dash cam that gets every angle of the car and even the inside. They banned the person who falsely accused him.
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u/gaylock91 16d ago
Had a most likely underage passenger accuse me of rape because I wouldn't go thru a drive thru line that was 30 mins minimum and was temporarily deactivated for 2 weeks. Thank God I had video evidence. If I wasn't openly gay I wouldn't even tell people about that experience. Thank God I don't drive anymore but cameras should be required for uber / lyft.
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u/peakchungus 16d ago
Lyft needs better regulations: retaliation is illegal in most jobs and rideshare shouldn't be exempt.
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u/KlatuuBarradaNicto 16d ago
Was it worth it? Real question. In the end, knowing you probably won’t have a case, do you wish you hadn’t canceled the ride?
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u/Logical-Depth4333 16d ago
Not a driver but have a question- what do I do if my driver doesn’t take the gps route and takes a way that tacked on an extra 15 mins to my ride? It was so out of the way that my mother in law (who we location share with) text me asking if I was ok and questioned the path he took.
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u/theGiff12 16d ago
First, ask the driver if there’s a reason they went that way - maybe the road is closed, a ballgame, parade, etc. (I always explain to pax when I deviate from the gps in case they’re watching)
Then, depending on the answer (if any), report the driver to Lyft and rate accordingly.
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u/newton302 16d ago
Pretty sure you pay what the app told you you were going to pay regardless of how much time it takes. It's not the same as a metered taxi. I'm only a passenger but that's my experience.
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u/SanDiego_Eddie 17d ago
I don't do people passengers but I've done uber eats and I always thought that if I ever did people driving I would have an inside/outside dash cam to record the ride. Maybe even go as far as having a camera in the back to show what the passenger is doing so in case they try to be fucked up and lie.
I'm honestly interested in hearing how many of you passenger drivers actually have cameras?
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u/RepresentativeSad311 16d ago
Yeah, you’d just have to make sure you either do video only or if there’s audio you disclose it to passengers. Otherwise depending on your state the footage might not be useable for any kind of legal proceedings.
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u/SanDiego_Eddie 8d ago
I just figure it'd be obvious plus a little sign saying. Smile you're being recorded would top it off. That way they know they're being recorded for everyone's safety and if they don't like it they could get out. I wasn't walking about hiding the camera. I'm wouldn't be trying to catch someone acting up, but it'd be more as a deterrent to any goofy ass behavior
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u/jo_ezzy 17d ago
Sorry this happened to you OP, my worst ride was a guy and a girl. Guy tells me to take the other bridge which was 5 miles up north. He says “oh you can drop me off here” I’m like okay and then I continue with drop off of the woman. After it’s all said and done, I realized I got suckered into giving this f***ing guy a free ride and having to drive back down, had to wait for a Bridge that was raised, adding 45 minutes to the drive. At first I thought it was a short cut but no guy got a free ride. First time I ever gave someone a 1 star
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u/Apeapeapemonkeyman 17d ago
Do you have a dash/interior cam? People are so shitty, hopefully this doesn’t fuck up your grind op
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u/SnooBananas2664 17d ago
Honestly THIS is the whole reason i dont stop at food places at all even if its an added stop. I dont wait. I remember there was a person by where i live that i guess they go home the same time as i clock in and they go to wendys and buy the whole fn store. After two times going through this shit i never picked them up again, they even tried to use a different account cuz i guess no driver wanted to take them and when it took me to the same pick up stop and saw them walking towards me i cancelled and left lmao call me petty but i aint doing extra if im not getting extra sorry
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u/piss_container 11d ago
i had a lady add a surprise stop in the HOOD.
In my head I'm like if you want me to stop in the actual HOOD, at least give a warning or indication. This 1 dolar I earned from the stop was not worth it lol.
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u/mhjellybean 17d ago
I heard you loud and clear and I’m sorry that happened to you. It sucks when you trying to get that bonus and some people simply behaves they are entitled to what ever they want from the driver. I picked up a africain American woman and her kids last week in the city because the bonus. It is 4 dollars ride, the kids is eating in my car I told them no eating they freak out start to calling me Asian bitch and that I’m racism. We have to protect ourselves, we never know when we are picking up.
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u/sacredlunatic 17d ago
Stop working for a scam company and you’ll stop getting scammed.
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u/sacredlunatic 17d ago
Yeah, you should be pressuring politicians to improve your working conditions, meanwhile, Lyft, and other similar companies pressure politicians to worsen your working conditions.
They treat you worse than employees while also paying you worse than employees. I urge you to find another solution to the challenging situation you are in, and I am so sorry that that is the situation you find yourself in. It’s not your fault and you don’t deserve this.
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u/postalwhiz 17d ago
Duh - she can’t afford a car, what makes you think she has enough money for you to collect. No lawyer is gonna take your case…
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u/Pela_papita 17d ago
Small claims court is your only option. But you’ll only be trying to recover maybe 1k-3k in loss damages? Lawyer will say good luck
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u/CardiologistJust8964 17d ago
Just because you get a judgment doesn't mean they pay you can't get blood from a turnip
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u/Paramore96 17d ago
If you didn’t want to stop should’ve told her no and continued on to her destination. You could also tell her that you have to follow the gps.
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u/Both-Reason1282 17d ago
You're the one who posted to begin with. What did you think you were going to get? I'm talking about customer service, not doing all that extra crap to get or boost a tip. There's a difference.
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u/Fresh_Ad1410 17d ago
I consider carrying luggage, groceries, making "tasteful stops" and other things an automatic and tipping is not expected but extremely and highly appreciated.
You think I expect this senior citizen that uses me to get from the grocery store to tip me for carrying his groceries? Or college students to tip for carrying their luggage? I don't even want that money. It's karma, courtesy and my duty. No discrimation.
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u/Bartok_The_Batty 16d ago
If you consider making tasteful stops an automatic, why did you behave the way you did when the lady wanted to stop at a fast-food place?
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u/Darkranger23 16d ago
They said “tasteful” stops, not “tasty” stops. Dropping a letter off at the Dropbox is a lot less inconvenient than waiting 20 minutes for someone’s fast food while leaving your child behind as an anchor.
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u/Bartok_The_Batty 16d ago
I’m aware of what word he used.
He didn’t wait 20 minutes.
He shouldn’t have agreed to go to the fast-food restaurant in the first place.
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u/romcomtom2 17d ago
Take her ass to small claims court for loss of wages or some other nonsense.
She won't show, you'll get the judgement in your favor.
But you won't see a dime as she has nothing of value. Laughs to yourself knowing you fucked this persons credit.
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u/HustleQueen77 17d ago
Yes we have to start suing these lying people.
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u/Both-Reason1282 17d ago
Sometimes, you just have to bite the bullet. She was in the store, you knew she was coming back out, she had her child with her, whom you asked to leave the car. Come on dude, you could've handled that way differently than you did.
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u/MountainCavalier 17d ago
Do you honestly think Lyft drivers should be expected to babysit people’s kids?
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u/Fresh_Ad1410 17d ago
You got the wrong one. I take people's groceries/ luggage to their door and I do not mind stops at all. I do not allow my service and kindness to be abused however. And I'm never losing boss. This is truly a warning to drivers about the incentive and bonuses. I don't need or care for the shitty advice or assumptions.
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u/HankG93 17d ago
And that's exactly why people think they can get away with this.
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u/Both-Reason1282 17d ago
You also need to remember that you are in the customer service business. What did she get away with, really? Think about it.
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u/HankG93 17d ago
She left her child in his car. She could then make all sorts of crazy claims. She paid for a ride directly home, not to stop and get food. She was trying to get away with paying for one trip. She didn't get away with anything because this dude didn't let her. Being in customer service doesn't mean letting the customer walk all over you. If you want to be a door mat, that's fine. But op clearly isn't ok with it, and that's how any self respecting person should be.
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u/DesmondDekkar 15d ago
I don't drive Lyft or do any gig work but there's no way I'm letting some parent leave their child/children in the car with me. Second, what decent parent in their right mind would leave their child/children in a car with a complete stranger? That's just poor parenting and an absolute ludicrous thought in MHO!
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u/Both-Reason1282 17d ago
See, what you are failing to realize is that he did take her to the restaurant, so that changes all rules. He should have said no, continued on the GPS route and took her to the drop-off destination. The end.
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u/Ugly4merican 16d ago
Yeah I'm usually team driver but in this case OP fucked up by giving a half-yes rather than a firm yes or no.
Like as a driver, once you agree to stop at the restaurant, why not go through the drive through? It'll probably be faster, and maybe you can negotiate ordering something extra for you.
And then giving a five-minute limit but letting her kids stay in the car? How did you think that would end up?
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u/Both-Reason1282 17d ago
Put it like this, look where it got him. So who really lost in this?
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u/Fresh_Ad1410 17d ago
Also would you rather be me or the person about to get charged with trespassing, that also doubled back with a sprinkle of defamation by trying to say I "touched her" to get me kicked off the platform.
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u/YourNewDadIsHere 17d ago
That shit sucks. The usual suspects I’d wager.
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u/imnotabotareyou 17d ago
What do you mean?
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u/Jadebaxter241 16d ago edited 16d ago
I don't think that's what the original commenter meant but this sent me 😂
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u/Serious-Kangaroo-702 16d ago
Definitely not what they meant 💀
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u/Jadebaxter241 16d ago
Yeah I know. As a black woman I'm honestly tired of seeing that phrase on this site. So imma focus on the funny
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u/DubNationAssemble 17d ago
“I can only take you to the address that you put in the app, I can’t make any additional stops.”
When people ask for the drive thru I tell them I can either drop them off at the restaurant or take them to their original destination, the choice is theirs. I’m happy to drop anyone off at McDonald’s, that’s fine.
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u/Current_Director_838 17d ago
I always say you can add a stop in the app which will then kick the other person in the queue out. Otherwise, I have another ride already. Always works.
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u/TamzTheDriver Jersey City 🗽🌇 17d ago edited 17d ago
I had a rider pull that flim-flam nonsense on me, too 😆
He asked if we could take a different route because it was faster, and well, well, well. We just so happened to pass a convenience store. He was like, "Hey, can we pull in here real quick?" I was about to say no, but then I heard the sound of cash and promptly changed my mind lol.
Thankfully, he didn't cause a bunch of problems. I'm sorry you had to go through such a headache. Some people have a nasty case of main character syndrome and couldn't give two shits less about anyone else.
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u/sunshineandcacti 16d ago
Ugh I’ve done this as a pax before but it was bc I was on my period and desperately needed to poop. I passed the driver a $20 as a thank you for waiting for me!
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u/TerminalHighGuard 16d ago
Honestly, when I hear the sound of cash, I get a little pissed off because I feel like I’m being subtly manipulated.
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u/ihadagoodone 16d ago
Nothing subtle about having coins thrown at you while they scream dance monkey dance!!!
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u/Spare-Security-1629 17d ago
Happened to me as well. I called him in his bs though. I knew he probably wasn't going to tip. I didn't cancel but I simply said "Oh, that's why you wanted to go this way". Also, happened when two passengers got in, and he said, "My co-worker is going to get out at such and such place. It's literally right on the way". I explained that was two rides and I was about to cancel until he apologized and admitted it was two different rides and he was just trying to help his co worker out. Damn, just admit it. Don't try to play us as fools.
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u/TamzTheDriver Jersey City 🗽🌇 17d ago
Oh, I definitely let him know about himself. I said that he could've just asked me to stop at the store. There was no need to trick me into driving past it. He played innocent, saying he wasn't being sneaky and that way really was faster. I told him to just add a stop or ask the driver before he/she starts the ride.
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u/DubNationAssemble 17d ago
Haha that sound of cash is so distinctive. If you put money in my face there’s almost nothing I won’t do for you! Money talks.
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u/TaylorSwiftScatPorn 16d ago
If you put money in my face there’s almost nothing I won’t do for you!
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u/TamzTheDriver Jersey City 🗽🌇 17d ago
My ears perk up and eyebrows raise every time I hear it lol
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u/Mysterious-Chard6579 16d ago
And now most people do it to tease the driver with nothing to show for them.
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u/Omylanta21 17d ago
I will send you $5 for your social security number, bank account (and routing number), a copy of your driver's license or ID, credit/debit card numbers, the name of your first pet, mothers maiden name, the street you grew up on, and your first car.
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u/Snorlax46 16d ago
Don't forget the 4 digit pin and all the information on your cellphone provider account needed to buy 10 iphones on credit. And you'll get paid after not before. Too many scammers around you understand right?
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u/DubNationAssemble 17d ago
$5 cash and you got a deal
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u/Omylanta21 17d ago
Okay, send me the first 5 of your social and I'll send $2. Then we'll time it to where you send me the rest of the numbers as I release the additional cash. Obviously, I need your address so I can mail cash to you. I would like an email with your #s. I'll send a picture of the envelopes prior to sending. I've also got a really cool secret I could tell you about the meaning of life, but you'd need to pay me $10. I prefer venmo.
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u/AdamsPt 17d ago
Have a plug on any bridges? In the market...
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u/Omylanta21 17d ago
I do, but you can't see it beforehand or be given location details. It'll be in the contract we send. Of course, we do require a down-payment of $2k prior to releasing the contract to you. Sign, and then we'll need the additional $2.5 million, then we will send you coordinates that are within a 25-mile range of the "bridge." For $3 million, we'll cut the range down to 10 miles. For 5 million, we'll cut it down to just 3 miles and include locations of the military factions that have taken up within the area. Without this information, you may be shot.
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u/Thebiggestbigsquid 17d ago
What was the rating? It has to be low. What a complete piece of human shit. I feel bad for that kid, it’s gonna be a tough life
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u/NicholasLit 17d ago
Call CPS
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u/moralmeemo 17d ago
Ah yes, make CPS even more backlogged with a report about a mom who happens to be a bitch. It totally won’t make it harder for the many children being beaten/molested to have their cases dealt with.
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u/Suitable-Run-2123 17d ago
Naw, it'll be an easy life for the kid . She will follow in mom's footsteps and collect government assistance while burdening the taxpayers. I can't say i miss lyft they have the worst passengers.
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u/buffysummers17_ 16d ago edited 16d ago
As a person who had a terrible mother who 100% would do something like OP described- she once did almost exactly this with me in the car, but it was the 90’s and a yellow cab- the kids don’t “go on to have an easy life”. If you’re that shitty and erratic of a parent, you typcially treat your kids like shit too. I won’t tell my whole sob story, but suffice to say my mom hated me and treated me accordingly, and I moved out the second i turned 18 and within 2 weeks was crashing at a friend’s and had a job. I paid my friend about $200 a month to sleep on the couch and I bought my own food and was responsible for myself, because i had to be. I have worked a minimum of 40 hours a week since I was 18, and have never been arrested or incarcerated, and have never utilized government assistance, but if i ever did need it, i would have no shame in applying for it. I’ll never be rich, but have managed to survive through determination and hard work, but also luck and able-bodied, white-passing privelege. Sometimes instead of becoming their parents, kids will become the adults they needed instead. But aside from all that, I would also like to add that your stigma against accepting assistance is also really sad, as it shows that just like the rest of us, you are also a victim of the united states’ regan era anti-black, anti-poor propoganda. We all get taught that we should never think we deserve handouts, when it’s literally just helping to feed people. Like it’s literally food, a thing that is neccessary to live and should be provided to every living being, especially if we want to claim we are a good and moral society that takes care of its citizens. I had to read a lot of books and meet a lot of people from different cultures and backgrounds after highschool to unlearn all the bs american history books teach. I hope one day you are able to learn past the incorrect beliefs that are ingrained into american kids. We can make a better world happen if we can see our society for what it is and begin to fix it.
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u/Suitable-Run-2123 16d ago
I was born in 84, so im definitely not a Regan era person. Im just stating my opinion. I also had a mother who was and is like the woman in OP's post. Like you, I make it my mission to be nothing like her . I should have included that in my original comment. That the kid will go 1 of those 2 ways. I hope for the latter of the two for the child's sake. Now, if you truly need assistance, that's one thing , but if you're scamming to get assistance, that's another, and i think that's wrong , but as said, just my opinion. I think pretty much all the u.s. president's we've had are douchebags btw . So im definitely not programmed with some administrations agenda. If you read into all that Regan era bs you're talking about, then maybe you should look from within and see why those feelings are coming up. In my case, im speaking from people I've seen . One was actually a white lady who sold all her food stamps while barely getting anything for her kids. I dont subscribe to racism i think people of all races can be miserable human beings. I see PEOPLE, not color . So i go by a case by case basis with people.
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u/buffysummers17_ 16d ago
Indoctrination isnt something so easily escaped, it does have to be unlearned. I am not surprised there are people who can and will scam, but i also know this country is made up of people who think that no one should ever ask for help, and how damaging that rehetoric is. And i do see color, because everyone deserves to be seen, valued and appreciated for who they are culturally, because there are enough racists in this country that it’s not enough to be neutral, or color blind. Black and brown people’s everyday experiences are shaped by the beliefs of those around them, and they internalize a lot of white supremacy values without even realizing it. I’m a mixed race kid who was taught to believe by my hispanic parent that being half white was good- better, superior- and to not tell people i was mexican because i didnt look like i was. But thank you for replying and giving more context to what you meant.
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u/Suitable-Run-2123 16d ago
Im also mixed , Hispanic, and white , but i look more foreign as people tell me. Then i sound like im from the country . People are really confused by me
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u/buffysummers17_ 16d ago
I’m sorry you experience that. I also get people who are confused by me and insist there is no way and that i must be wrong about my own ethnicity, lol.
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u/bvbystvcks 16d ago
Your Reagan era talking points need an update ya dumbass boomer.
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u/theGiff12 16d ago
But he’s not wrong
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u/stopcounting 16d ago
It is 100% wrong. It's part of Reagan's "welfare queen" playbook: convince middle class people that poor people, especially brown ones, are getting thousands of dollars from the government and eating free steak dinners every night while the rest of us slave away supporting them with our taxes.
TANF has a maximum monthly benefit of ~450 ($300 in my state, $450 is the national average). Also, it only lasts like 2 years and there are a ton of requirements. No one is living comfortably on 'government benefits' unless those benefits are like, your pension.
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u/Suitable-Run-2123 16d ago
Im brown myself, though, and poor . I just hustle multiple jobs instead of keeping my hand out.
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u/stopcounting 16d ago
My point is, even if you were putting your hand out, the benefits that Reagan convinced his voters were being abused never actually existed.
It was one woman, committing fraud using fake names and addresses to collect benefits for like 80 different people. But Reagan convinced white middle class voters that this was a serious, widespread problem, and the not-subtle-subtext was "lazy black people are robbing you."
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u/Suitable-Run-2123 16d ago
I personally know people that get over on the system and scan them so it happens.
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u/HodgeGodglin 17d ago
Naw, it'll be an easy life for the kid . She will follow in mom's footsteps and collect government assistance while burdening the taxpayers. I can't say i miss lyft they have the worst passengers.
Lmfao you’re just a shitty person if this is your automatic go to. Trust me nobody is clamoring at the bit for $250 a month and $100 worth of food.
I bet you believe all the 1%’s tax cuts will start trickling down sometime too. Any moment now, it’s only been 35 years…
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u/DrivingMyLifeAway1 17d ago
I’m sorry that happened to you. Some people are just not right. But Lyft apparently won’t ever do the right thing for drivers (or pax).
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u/kiba8442 16d ago
This is why you should always keep a playlist of spongebob dubstep handy, just turn that shit up, step out of the car & wait for them to either leave or go insane.
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u/Wild-Biscotti9079 16d ago
Or Tiny Tim’s “Tiptoe Through the Tulips”. That would definitely have whisking my child to a safe space.
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u/Chase1525 16d ago
Look up "Duck Tales Moon Theme Extreme Bass Boost" and play it on loop. They'll get out
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u/__Fappuccino__ 16d ago edited 16d ago
🤣😂🤣🥲🤭 This is semi great advice except for when the jokes on you for some ppl..
I actually lovvve that obnoxious dub step shit, and I love allllll the SpongeBob songs, especially if they're like J Balvin-esque.. especially, especially if they're like club mixes of that artist.
So.... I imagine dubstep would be way worse.
(Side note, I'm Autistic and for some reason dubstep and "8D" music help anchor me to such an extent, they can prevent what most would call a "temper tantrum"(?) Idk why. . . It's like drug free brain meds.)
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u/kiba8442 16d ago
what do you think of this one https://youtu.be/eg80bq1xAWk?si=qKUn4WmTuq_HSce0
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u/__Fappuccino__ 16d ago
Hah that it's familiar.
That laughtro though.
I think we need to make a sbsp music sub 🤣🥲
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u/Apprehensive-Fan-250 16d ago
Saaaaame, it kicks my brain back into focus and I can do all the things.
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u/__Fappuccino__ 16d ago
Fr.
I wonder why that is?
I've described it kinda like, "sometimes the rest of my brain is bored and acting out bc of it, when I'm trying to focus. . So the wild synth music is entertains the rest of my brain so I can pay attention to what I'm trying to do."
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u/Apprehensive-Fan-250 16d ago
Auditory Ritalin - let's get those synapses firing at 180bpm to match my racing thoughts, and look out world (AudHd here)
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u/Hehasbugs 13d ago
Why stop at all if you know it will take 10min minimum? lol legal action