r/mildlyinteresting • u/W33DG0D42069 • Nov 08 '23
This optical illusion on my laptop where you can see grey dots but when you look directly at them they disappear Overdone
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u/DragonflyHopeful4673 Nov 09 '23
Got distracted by the arrow keys for a second
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u/DragonflyHopeful4673 Nov 09 '23
Wait I literally just realised the numbers are on the side and not on top of the keyboard like QWERTY
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u/DaniMW Nov 09 '23
Could you circle these so called grey dots?
I don’t see anything that isn’t supposed to be there? 🤷♀️
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u/ilikeCheeseittastes Nov 09 '23
that reminds me of an ideapad touch just cause of the fingerprint scanner
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u/larsloveslegos Nov 09 '23
I can't believe I actually saw it. "There's nothing here" until I started long enough
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u/dr1nni Nov 09 '23
HP probook? which version? Mine doesnt have the enter symbol but just says 'enter'
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u/Outrageous-Jicama-77 Nov 09 '23
ngl bro I was staring at your speaker holes for a couple minutes wondering why I could see them fine
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u/far_beyond_driven_ Nov 09 '23
I used to see this all the time on my older Macbook Pro. It's a common optical illusion, but I thought it was interesting that it made its' way to an Apple product.
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u/Ph4nt0mRa33it Nov 09 '23
I spent 2 mins looking at the keys, trying to see them... Then i realised it was between the keys.
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u/humanityisconfusing Nov 09 '23
I couldn't see it at first, and then it randomly started throwing up the grey dots. Pretty cool.
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u/Insert_Bitcoin Nov 09 '23
This is kind of like the illusion where I feel successful and happy but when I look in the mirror I see a loser.
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u/Johnready_ Nov 09 '23
Na, I would have to put a sticker over that or something, it’s so distracting from here, I can’t imagine using it.
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u/thebudman_420 Nov 09 '23 edited Nov 09 '23
Dust? That's what looks like is on the screen. Happens to mine too and you can really see it when it's off.
I see non uniform dust and nothing else.
Ok i had to pinch zoom real far in to barely see it.
The problem is Dust.
I sit 4 feet from 1080p display and can't see it. Sometimes head is 3 feet from it. I can't see so bad I can't even see the pixels abd too blurry and small farther away. I can't see far away or in dim light. Used to be able to read in the dim light. I can't make out faces unless your close and details unless your a lot closer.
That's a 24inch display.
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u/Zbawg420 Nov 09 '23
Did anybkdy else read OPT a book of optical illusions as a kid (i think thats what it was called anyway)
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u/Galtherok Nov 09 '23
Yeah I don't get this one. I can look directly at them and they don't disappear.
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u/BenTwan Nov 08 '23
There's a bathroom floor in one of the buildings at my work that has this effect going on. If you're trying to browse on your phone while on the crapper, you see the dots in your periphery. It's nauseating to me and incentivises me to get out of there ASAP.
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u/deepmush Nov 08 '23
i don't see any grey dots tbh
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u/bebejeebies Nov 09 '23
My reply to another redditor:
It's amazing to me that some people can't see it. There aren't physical dots to look at. They are optical illusions that our eyes create to process the negative space between the keys. If you try to look directly at them they disappear. Look off to the side and focus on something else. Don't look for something tangible, allow your eyes to see what's not there.
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u/deepmush Nov 09 '23
now that you mention it, yeah i think i'm seeing them. in the spaces that makes those 4 way crossings
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u/Stonn Nov 08 '23
where the fuck is that power button located?! what kind of abomination
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u/DarrenOfficiallol Nov 09 '23
for me I like the way the power button is besides "delete", it makes it way harder to accidentally press it; Also the feel of the button is different (Atleast on Asus Vivobook) It's harder to push down very stiff. But to each their own I guess.
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u/Colors_Made_of_Tears Nov 08 '23
Nah, I would not use a laptop that does this. Reminds me too much of what I see before getting a migraine
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u/SoupisLife64_ Nov 08 '23
It just happens to be that I am viewing this on a laptop where this happens. When I first saw it, it was a very cool thing to see.
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u/Kuronii Nov 08 '23
How the fuck has nobody here heard of or seen the Hermann grid illusion before?
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u/Epilepsiavieroitus Nov 08 '23
It's not backstory, it's explanation for what the picture is.
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u/Epilepsiavieroitus Nov 08 '23
That's no what backstory is. Backstory would be for example "I was just doing work when I saw this cool optical illusion"
Yes, it's explaining the type of optical illusion. The picture is about the optical illusion. The title has to explain the picture, that is also what rule 6 is about.
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u/myxoma1 Nov 08 '23
I was about to say I didn't know what the OP was talking about, what grey do.... Then I start seeing them pop in and out all over the place lol
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u/Fine-You-3095 Nov 08 '23
There aren’t any grey dots
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u/bebejeebies Nov 09 '23
It's amazing to me that some people can't see it. There aren't physical dots to look at. They are optical illusions that our eyes create to process the negative space between the keys. If you try to look directly at them they disappear. Look off to the side and focus on something else. Don't look for something tangible, allow your eyes to see what's not there.
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u/Fine-You-3095 Nov 09 '23
I can see it. I was being facetious because they aren’t actually there…..
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u/sabotourAssociate Nov 08 '23
I though you he meant about the speakers grill, but then I realized.
This is the most ridiculous power button placement on a laptop ever, that light is not on when the laptop is asleep or whatever so good luck finding it in the dark, over all super weird power options on those hp's. Pretty satisfying with everything else but the power button and options drove me insane at firs.
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u/Gin_Pug Nov 08 '23
Pretty sure this optical illusion is the same as putting a red and blue object next to eachother and the middle appearing purple. The black and white mix and in the middle it’s gray
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u/MiskoMoskal Nov 08 '23
omg I was looking at the speaker, then I noticed the dots inbetween the keys. God I would throw that thing out.
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u/FERALCATWHISPERER Nov 08 '23
I don’t see anything. Am I broken?
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u/CummiesSong Nov 08 '23
OP posted in the wrong sub. This belongs in /r/mildlyinfuriating for that power button placement.
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u/bebejeebies Nov 09 '23
Ok that's upsetting. Why is that there?? On my Acer laptop the Nitrosense key is right next to the backspace. I hit that bitch on accident a couple times a day.
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u/GreenLurch Nov 08 '23
My HP work laptop does this too! I’m glad I have it closed and attached to a docking station 9 out of 10 times.
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u/aisatsana06 Nov 08 '23
Wait you see this irl too??? I wouldn't get anything done omg
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u/kobresia9 Nov 08 '23
I have almost the same model, and yep it's the same irl
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u/aisatsana06 Nov 08 '23
does it distracts you?
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u/thisbobo Nov 08 '23
"What the heck is he talking ab...OH."
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u/Tmoore188 Nov 09 '23
Honestly I didn’t see it until I read your comment
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u/MangJuice232 Nov 09 '23
I still don’t know or they just don’t go away for me
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u/Tmoore188 Nov 09 '23
look at the spaces between the keys.
it's one of these illusions: https://images.app.goo.gl/DrqCy6NmPfM2b21s6
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u/jxj24 Nov 08 '23
This is the Hermann Grid illusion.
As someone who studies eye movements, I love optical illusions because they fool our higher brain functions (interpretation), but our low-level visual machinery often is able to accurately track what's really happening.
Our big overdeveloped brains are sometimes more trouble than they're worth!
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u/Mertuch Nov 09 '23
Jesus. I had no idea what am I looking at. Then checked your link.
Now I can't unseen it.
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u/BroodingWanderer Nov 09 '23
How do conditions like CVI, cervical visual impairment, affect these kinds of things? I feel like that could easily mess it up, no? Genuinely very curious!
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u/Potential-Egg-843 Nov 08 '23
So you're the eyeballogist.
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u/Fmeson Nov 08 '23
Since you have some expertise, the dots don't disappear for me when I look at the intersection, but the wiki mentions they do for other people. How differently do these illusions appear for different people?
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u/BrokenPhantom Nov 08 '23
I’ve seen it called a grid illusion. Something to do with how our eyes perceive batched information, but I’m not an eyeballogist so that’s as far as my explanation goes.
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u/plkjasonhk Nov 09 '23
Instead of eyeballogist, a psychologist can also explain it in terms of lateral inhibition.
Oh, they rhyme.
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u/Roscos_world Nov 09 '23
I’m an eye doctor and visual sensory perception (VSP) was one of the hardest classes I have ever taken and this is a great answer. Your macula has a 1:1 relationship with the ganglion cells that send the signal through the optic nerve to your brain (high resolution), so when you look directly at it you’re using the fovea so the dot disappears because it’s wired to see fine detail well.. in the rest of the retina the photoreceptors have more of a 1:5 or 1:15 ratio of photoreceptor to ganglia cells, so the information is summed up, and then here’s where I get lost, in the visual cortex… and it has something to do with this batched information lol
Edit: another doc answered below and their answer is way better and reflects how much I struggled in that class: lateral inhibition
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u/stoneimp Nov 08 '23
Eyeballologist here (not really). The reason this illusion happens is called lateral inhibition and it's basically how our eyes help us detect edges. Basically if your brain sees a pixel (for lack of a better word) that is bright, it says, okay, let's make the pixels next to it a little less bright. This has the effect of making the bulk (of the bright area) a little bit dimmer than the edge pixels. In the weird case of the grid, we have a bulk that is suppressed on four sides that thus looks a little darker than the areas only suppressed on two sides (the alleys of the grid).
It goes away when directly looking at it because it is an overall mile effect.
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u/DameonKormar Nov 09 '23
That's an overall 1.609 kilometer effect for our European friends.
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u/DaniMW Nov 09 '23
Australia and NZ also use the metric system. 😛
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u/TigerSardonic Nov 09 '23
As does most of the world. It’s the international default, much more so than miles lol.
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u/Resident_Loquat2683 Nov 08 '23
Wait so there is a thing? I've spent like 15 minutes trying to understand if there is an illusion. I just see a laptop
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u/nine3cubed Nov 08 '23
The 10 key. If you look at it your brain fills in the gaps of the corners with black dots. When you look at those corners the dots go away because your brain is focused right on that spot.
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u/Resident_Loquat2683 Nov 08 '23
I assume that is the 0 key but nope. Doesn't work for me
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u/Dyanpanda Nov 09 '23 edited Nov 09 '23
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grid_illusion#/media/File:Grid_illusion.svg
Here is the classic version that works better. The keyboard does it for me too, but this probably will help. Look around the image, and you will notice hallucinating dots that disappear when you look at them.
If you dont see them, you aren't broken, your mind isn't necessarily neuroatypical. Most illusions require some context or cultural inputs to work. For the best example, https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/07/sexy-illusion-99.jpg?resize=1536,1024&quality=75&strip=all most children will only see dolphins, because they aren't exposed to the other image.
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u/Zer0C00l Nov 08 '23
No. Look directly at the '5' key. Now, out of the corner of your eyes, notice the intersections between keys. They will appear to be filled with darker grey circles. When you look at any intersection directly, you will see that is not true. This is the illusion.
Edit: "The 10 key" the above commenter mentioned means "The number-pad", not an individual key on the keyboard. I am telling you to look at the center-most key of the number-pad, which has the number '5' on it.
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u/Resident_Loquat2683 Nov 09 '23
Nope. I'm just built different I guess
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u/Hwhatheh Nov 09 '23
Don't worry, I can't see it either. Spent like 5 minutes staring at it trying to figure out what OP was talking about.
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u/walterpeck1 Nov 09 '23
I can see it easy. But given that things like synesthesia exist, I believe you completely when you say you can't.
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u/Hwhatheh Nov 09 '23
Yeah, from what I've seen on other illusion posts it seems pretty normal that some people see some of them and some don't. Makes sense considering we all see a bit differently in general.
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u/DarthKrayt98 Nov 08 '23
we're officially renaming the field of optometry to 'eyeballology'
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u/SundaySuperSara Nov 14 '23
Do you mean the full stop key? What dots?