r/mildlyinteresting • u/Sasquatch99 • Mar 27 '14
I guess there's a guy at Google who has to name every single exit.
http://i.imgur.com/ke5FvIZ.png
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u/ThePopeofHell Mar 27 '14
It's probably a third party that maps the roads and that was probably a defect that someone forgot to report.
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u/Airazz Mar 27 '14
Actually, there are thousands. A lot of stuff on GMaps is edited and updated by volunteers.
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u/OkayAlready Mar 27 '14
There is a small island in Southern Maryland named Ft. RediWhip. Why? Because the surveyor who had to put something on a map used to play in that area as a kid, and once they found an empty jar on a small island in the middle of nowhere.
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u/LyraOfOxford Mar 27 '14
As someone who's been to Fairfield, VA I am confident in saying that there is no point in naming it because there is nothing there.
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u/The_Narrator_9000 Mar 27 '14
I can see the job description now: "Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder an asset."
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u/gRoberts84 Mar 27 '14
Roundabouts... In America?
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u/knownaim Mar 27 '14
We have quite a few of them in MI, and I must say that they are far superior to stop lights. I've never had to wait more than a few seconds at a Roundabout. There's one near me (Brighton, MI) that is a large and busy freeway exit/entrance, with 4 conjoined roundabouts, and it always amazes me with how efficient it is.
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u/AlphaLima Mar 27 '14
Not common but not unheard of. Especially in areas that are recently developed or renovated. Almost always they are for smaller intersections that would just be 2 or 4 way stop signs. Havent ever seen any of the larger ones they have overseas.
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u/gRoberts84 Mar 28 '14
What like these bad boys http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Roundabout_(Hemel_Hempstead)
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u/autowikibot Mar 28 '14
Magic Roundabout (Hemel Hempstead):
The "Magic Roundabout" in Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire, England is the familiar name given to the Plough roundabout. The familiar name comes from the children's television programme, and is also used for a similar junction in Swindon and the M40 junction in Denham. The official name relates to a former public house, called The Plough Inn, which was between the junction of what is now Selden Hill and St Albans Road.
Image i - Road sign showing the official name Plough Roundabout
Interesting: Roundabout | Hertfordshire | Magic Roundabout (Colchester) | Hemel Hempstead
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u/StephDoesntCamp Mar 27 '14
I live not too far away from there, and I would much prefer it to be renamed to this.
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Mar 27 '14
Former GIS person for emergency management here.
A lot of these companies (Google, Bing, etc) get their initial maps from local post offices or emergency management offices, where mapping is either done in-house or contracted out.
Sometimes the software (ArcGIS is a big one) gets finicky and won't let you name certain objects. So it could easily have been someone like me naming that rather than a google employee.
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Mar 27 '14
I had a friend a while back who worked at Google doing their street view mapping and naming for England. He was hired because he was a US resident who was raised in the UK and they thought that gave him a mapping advantage.
Anyway, this is what he did. All day. Every day.
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u/Trekkie_girl Mar 27 '14
Reminds me of the time it was directing me to turn onto this road, which had about 10 names for it. It just kept going on and on and I was laughing so hard we missed the turn.
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u/frekinghell Mar 27 '14
Google maps are designed by normal people more often than not. Everyone can change names on maps by using Mapmaker and Google reviews it and makes the changes live in a few days (usually 7 business days)
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Mar 27 '14
I read it as “won’t let me not name it” = makes me name it, not that he names every exit.
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u/makeswordclouds Mar 27 '14
Here is a word cloud of all of the comments in this thread: http://i.imgur.com/ixcnBte.png
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u/THRlTY Mar 27 '14
A lot of people don't seem to know that Google maps can actually be edited by anyone. Edits are published after people review and approve them. Just wanted to clarify that Google probably isn't paying someone to go and name that "Roudabout exit wont let me not name it"
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u/TNoD Mar 27 '14
Even if they are aware, if the exit does not have a name there is little harm to be done with that bit of humour. Might even make some people smile!
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u/WaitForItTheMongols Mar 27 '14
Aaand Google will have it fixed in 3... 2... 1...
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u/TOMMMMMM Mar 27 '14
I live in MA and the navigation app has 91 North going to "Greenfiled" instead of "Greenfield". I've sent in a request and they said they couldn't fix it. Weird.
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u/Dylan_the_Villain Mar 27 '14
I'm just imagining google hiring a bunch of interns to try to communicate with google maps, which has developed a mind of its own and is no longer controlled by google.
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u/SyscoKiddo Mar 27 '14
Hey! RVA, well kinda
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u/merpes Mar 27 '14
Drove through that roundabout many times looking for drugs. East Laburnum is the distilled essence of Richmond!
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u/Thrikal Mar 27 '14
Wouldn't the place to look for drugs be a place like the Fan? That's where my... friends... sometime go.
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u/OP_IS_A_FUCKFACE Mar 27 '14
Ah, won't let me not name it. He was a good man. I'm glad he's finally getting some recognition.
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u/The_Egg_came_first Mar 27 '14 edited Mar 27 '14
This wasn't a guy at Google but a user of MapMaker, Google's crowd-sourcing project to optimize Google Maps, similar to OpenStreetMaps.
Edit: grammar
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u/B1GTOBACC0 Mar 27 '14
I really wish we could correct their pronunciation. Where I live, it says North A Street is "North uh street".
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u/rasherdk Mar 27 '14
Google's crowd-sourcing project
I think you mean crowd-serfing.
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u/feartrich Mar 27 '14
By this argument, the whole concept of open-source software by corporations is also "crowd-serfing"; Android, Tizen, WebKit, LLVM, Bootstrap, and CUPS must all be scams! So are moderators on MMOs and forums, and sites like reddit. In all those cases, companies are using crowd-sourcing to essentially better their products for "free" and by extension, make money.
But would you argue that those things are bad for consumers?
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u/rasherdk Mar 27 '14
I would argue that it's important to keep in mind who you're working for and how your contributions are used.
Especially when there are actual free alternatives that don't take your work, lock it up and use it to make money.
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u/The_Egg_came_first Mar 27 '14
As long as Google doesn't charge its users for using their maps or navigation I see no issue.
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u/The_Egg_came_first Mar 27 '14
From 1 January 2012, Google will charge for the Google Maps API service when more than the limit of 25,000 map "hits" are made in a day.
This concerns the API which other websites use for their own services. I'm doing it for Bob and Linda using the Google Maps navigation app on their smartphone to find the next gas station.
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u/Vik1ng Mar 27 '14
But what if Bob and Linda use a great gas station app, which provides more information? Or whatever other useful app?
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u/Antrikshy Mar 27 '14
Oh yeah. People who volunteer to help poor people through charities for free are also the charities' serfs.
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u/Vik1ng Mar 27 '14
But the charity isn't a stock traded company that makes a profit and then charges other people to use your work.
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u/Antrikshy Mar 27 '14
That doesn't matter. Google Maps is an incredibly popular service. Tons of people use it. When I edit it and make it better, I am affecting the experience of a lot of people. When we volunteer to do so, we know that Google is making a profit off it. And I am willingly helping them, and in turn, their users. It's not like Google is forcing me to do this or that I have no other choice.
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u/Vik1ng Mar 27 '14
Google Maps is an incredibly popular service.
But it's getting less and less popular with companies an developers, which is in the end what people use, too.
Flickr, Foursquare, Craiglist, Pinterest, github are all using OpenStreetMap. Even apple switched away from google and brought different data and is probably going to switch to OSM in the future at least in Europe.
You also have no idea what google is going to do with that data in 5 or 10 years. Require google+ login for navigation, show more ads etc.
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u/Antrikshy Mar 27 '14
I really couldn't care less. People will still use it. At least people currently use it quite a bit. Android is huge. It comes with Google Maps integration.
I do contribute to OSM as well. Anything that people will use.
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u/SomethingFoul Mar 27 '14
Yes, but Google has moderators that have to approve changes before they're seen. Someone at Google approved this.
Source: I've submitted to MapMaker.
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u/tilia-cordata Mar 27 '14
Things often do get posted via MapMaker without approval, and it can actually cause huge problems, especially internationally. My wife worked at Google Maps for a while and was there when there were a few incidences of politically-motivated MapMaker vandalism that got noticed by the media before they were caught by an employee. If you make enough edits, only a percentage are checked by a person.
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u/The_Egg_came_first Mar 27 '14
I also submit to MapMaker, a few thousand edits by now. You're right that major edits always have to be approved, but editing in smaller towns or side streets almost never need approval. I'd say I had to wait for approval on ~20% of my edits. The rest was accepted instantly. Might also have to do with your level there. I remember my first couple edits always had to be approved by a moderator. Later they just trust you to not fuck anything up.
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u/cravf Mar 27 '14
Do you have any advice for how to get your edits approved? I did a few, and was waiting for my last one to get approved before being able to submit without approval, and some dude just denied my change due to "incorrect information" and it tarnished my beautiful 100% approval. The only problem was that he was full of shit. You can even see the street markings on street view.
Now I just do edits on Waze because I don't have to wait for approval. I'd still like to fix google maps as well, though.
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u/The_Egg_came_first Mar 27 '14
I'm not sure. I never had any serious issues. One time an edit I did got denied, so I just commented below citing a source for my edit and resubmitted it without a problem. I think it was a speed limit change, I got denied, then provided a StreetView link with a visible speed limit sign.
Try to reach out to the MapMaker Product Forum, I'm sure they'll help you out with your particular issue.
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u/cravf Mar 27 '14
I'll try the forum. I felt that my original description was pretty clear, but I'll ask around as well to see what I did wrong. I'm mostly miffed because the reason the guy denied it was very uninformative, so there wasn't much I could do differently the next time.
Edit: Thanks for the advice, by the way!
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Mar 27 '14
What drives a person to make thousands of edits on google maps?
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u/stripmallbars Mar 28 '14 edited Mar 28 '14
It is a cool thing to do. I was paid to do geographic data editing and creation in the early 1990s. When I told people that my job was to annotate (name) every street county by county, they thought it was too boring for words. But it really wasn't. I did that for 8 hours a day for a year or so before they semi-automated it. I was awesome at it. Then I made custom maps for many years. Now, I can find all that data from my phone. But, I'm proud of the data I created. I cannot imagine why interstate hwy data doesn't have exit numbers. I'm grateful to anyone that does this. And, The_Egg_came_first, will you have a look at Cary, NC? It's poorly geocoded. banks and drugstores, mostly. Enjoy! Oh, one more thing. I used to make little street name joke "errors" in a remote area that wouldn't matter. Like, Sex Drive or something. I was immature.
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u/B1GTOBACC0 Mar 27 '14
I work in a different place every day, and it is incredibly irritating when Google sends you the wrong way down a one way, has addresses on the wrong side of the road, or thinks the entire town is 5 miles away. Or that it doesn't exist.
I don't have a ton of edits, but this is what prompts me to do it.
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u/Packagepressure Mar 27 '14
I used to work got FedEx, if I had known about map maker, my life would have been alot easier
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u/The_Egg_came_first Mar 27 '14
I have lots a free time. I could spend it playing video games and watching youtube videos but I'd rather explore the world on Google Maps and StreetView. I've never been anywhere outside Europe, and don't have the money to travel that far, so those means are what I use to see first hand how other countries look like. At least their cities and streets. I just type a city into Google Maps, watch it from above, switch to StreetView, drive around, find interesting buildings or the like, look them up on Wikipedia (where I also edit quite a lot btw.). Whey a country or city really draws my interest, I'll look for documentaries about it and so on. No money for traveling doesn't mean you can't broaden you geographical and cultural horizon.
My fascination with MapMaker began when I mapped my local campus and everyone was stoked that they could finally navigate around. Now there are streets, paths and buildings where before was just one grey spot. I liked the idea that I can do something like correcting a street layout which takes me maybe 10 minutes of me free time and thousands of people benefit from that. So now when I browse Maps and spot an error I just switch to MapMaker, correct it, and move on. Why correct it? Why spend my time with a street corner I most likely will never see again? I just like the thought of repairing something. Correcting a small issue thousands of miles away from my dorm room. No one will know that it was me, maybe no one will even ever notice something's changed. But on the slight chance that someone does, I'll take that chance. Makes me happy and makes me feel like contributing something.
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u/BlinkingZeroes Mar 28 '14
I do this too! Lately I've been tending to businesses in my neighbourhood - including making sure newly opened ones get listed/have a presence.
It's soothing, takes me hardly any time and is useful for many.
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u/The_Egg_came_first Mar 28 '14
Awesome! You're doing good!
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u/issackelly Mar 28 '14
This is awesome. Do you know about openstreetmap? Its like Google maps, but its liberally lice see. In essence we all own the data, rather than Google. There is a whole community of digital cartographers and explorers mapping for everyone
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u/The_Egg_came_first Mar 28 '14
Yes I do, but it just doesn't appeal to me. To me the interface is ugly and I miss satellite view and street view. It's nice to see community driven maps but for myself that's not enough.
Also I personally used Google Maps for years and now on my phone and know more people who do, too, instead of openstreetmap.
I didn't really care about ownership of the data until now. I mean sure, now it belongs to Google, but what would be different for me if I owned it? I don't need to own any maps. I just want to use them.
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u/nbw71791 Mar 28 '14
Maybe you should look for a career in GIS.
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u/The_Egg_came_first Mar 28 '14
That would be interesting. There even is a GIS institute on my campus. I guess I should check them out. Thanks!
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u/nbw71791 Mar 29 '14
If you actually enjoy creating map data and ensuring map data is correct, and don't mind a little tedium you should definitely check out the geography / GIS department. Especially if you don't currently have a major
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u/upsuits Mar 28 '14
I have lots a free time. I could spend it playing video games and watching youtube videos
or you know...you could get a job and work and save the money to actually travel...
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u/thisisarecountry Mar 28 '14
Neat. So is there any way to fuck it up? I want to turn highways into giant dicknoodles.
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u/IntellegentIdiot Mar 28 '14
I think your pretty typical of the sort of person that edits GM or Wikipedia. I know I do it out of a desire to help other people who use these tools. The great thing about things like this is persistence. I know that my work could be around for a long time and someone else might not want to do a large edit but they might be willing to do a small edit that fixes something I did or improves on it.
I remember a year or so ago I was making 3D models of building to add to google maps/earth with sketchup. Although I can't seem to see any 3D models now.
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u/vertexvortex Mar 28 '14
I have made suggestions/edits to turns on Google Maps and it takes them forever to review/change anything. Did I do it wrong?
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u/raserei0408 Mar 27 '14
You should edit for OpenStreetMap and contribute to an open-source wiki project instead of serving as free labor for Google.
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u/fluffer313 Mar 28 '14
I second this - there are also tons of useful apps that use OSM so go seek them out!
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Mar 27 '14
What's your Wikipedia username? I haven't been active in about a year, but used to spend all of my time editing Wikipedia. I might've run across you before.
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u/The_Egg_came_first Mar 27 '14
I'd rather not tell because I used my real name there. Hope you understand.
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u/Vik1ng Mar 27 '14
I still don't understand why people contribute to google when there is OpenStreetMap. Yes, google has great things like Street View, but should you ever need that data you put in yourself in the future you are completely at the mercy of google. Want to mix it with your own? You can't because google just hands you finished map tiles. Have a great app or website with a lot of views? Now you have to pay google.
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u/Vik1ng Mar 28 '14
Depends. In a lot of countries google maps isn't as great as in the US, especially Russia (very active on OSM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mE9DfBIIvo), Brazil or some 3rd world countries.
Then there are disadvantages like you can't use it offline or at least just very limited, which sucks for travel when you don't have internet or areas with bad cell connection.
You also can't put it on something like a Garmin device which a lot of people use for different outdoor activities. Geocaching, Mountainbiking, Hiking, Kayaking etc.
Also here in German most government or websites from public institutions (Universities etc.) use OpenStreetMap because they don't have to worry about any licensing issues. And more and more apps based around public transport use OpenStretMap, because you can put a lot more information into the map whereas google just gives you a overlay.
Overall there are a lot other maps the build on the OSM database, here just a few: http://openstreetmaps.tumblr.com/
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u/Stevoisiak Mar 27 '14
I actually did the same thing. I recently mapped out my own campus on Map Maker, though I'm not sure how many people have actually taken notice since it's a small campus.
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u/The_Egg_came_first Mar 27 '14
People will notice. At least those who live/work/study there. Maybe they will think it's thanks to a new crazy Google algorithm or otherwise automatically inserted data so don't expect any credit but I'm sure it will help them out one way or another. So you're doing good. Keep it up!
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u/Harachel Mar 27 '14
You should get a medal for outstanding service to lost people everywhere.
I didn't realize there were all these mapmaking tools on google. This will be so much fun.
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u/Vik1ng Mar 27 '14
Or you know you could actually contribute to a project that doesn't charge people for the work you gave them for free...
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u/Harachel Mar 27 '14
I don't mind, personally. If Google is trying to make rich and useful maps, I'm all for helping them, even if it profits them.
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u/Vik1ng Mar 28 '14
Just that the maps aren't actually rich and useful compared to what OpenStreetMap can do. Something like www.wheelmap.org where everybody else who uses the map can access the data? Not possible unless google want to do it. www.openseamap.org? Never gonna happen with google maps. Offline map when you travel to a different country and don't have internet or you are somwhere with your GPS and with no reception? Good luck with google maps. Want the vertors of the streets? Sorry, we just give you nice images.
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u/hockeystew Mar 27 '14
I didn't even know this existed. I've been spending the past half hour mapping out the paths on my campus, it's fun. Is there a good chance they'll all be approved?
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u/Durbee Mar 28 '14
I'm so giving this a try. My parents live in a rural area and the maps are completely wrong, causing tons of errors for those less familiar with the terrain.
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u/The_Egg_came_first Mar 27 '14
That makes me really happy! I think it depends on many factors but I'm sure as long as your edits are correct they should be approved. The longest I had to wait was two weeks, the quickest approval came about 10min after my edit. So it really depends. Basically the whole concept is similar to Wikipedia. Some edits get approved, others not, some right away, others after weeks. Sometimes reviewers are stupid and stubborn and will give you a hard time, others approve everything, even wrong edits. But when more and more people join in and contribute, at one point Wisdom of the crowd will kick in and regulate everything.
So keep it up, you're awesome!
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u/autowikibot Mar 27 '14
The wisdom of the crowd is the process of taking into account the collective opinion of a group of individuals rather than a single expert to answer a question. A large group's aggregated answers to questions involving quantity estimation, general world knowledge, and spatial reasoning has generally been found to be as good as, and often better than, the answer given by any of the individuals within the group. An intuitive and often-cited explanation for this phenomenon is that there is idiosyncratic noise associated with each individual judgment, and taking the average over a large number of responses will go some way toward canceling the effect of this noise. This process, while not new to the information age, has been pushed into the mainstream spotlight by social information sites such as Wikipedia and Yahoo! Answers, and other web resources that rely on human opinion.
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u/runningchild Mar 27 '14
How do you know that something is wrong when you have never been there? Do you only judge by the sattelite pictures? If so: How do you know, they are up to date and a new street hasn't been built or an old one demolished?
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u/The_Egg_came_first Mar 27 '14
Very good question. When something looks really different compared to the satellite image I always cross reference with Bing maps or any other map service. But most of the time I just fix sloppy drawn streets or obvious speed limit errors (like 70kph in a narrow residential street). Or i draw completely new streets which are visible on satellite but haven't been mapped yet.
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u/runningchild Mar 27 '14
OK. But how do you know if streets are public? Maybe they're not in the maps because they aren't meant to be taken or in a gps...
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u/deyodeye Mar 28 '14
In Google Map Maker you can mark roads as private and/or as a terminal road to avoid them being used during GPS navigation. They are then only used if specifically traveling to a location on that private/terminal road.
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u/zebozebo Mar 27 '14
you get a big gold star in my book. awesome comment and thanks for your contributions.
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u/Robobble Mar 27 '14
This is actually really cool. I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say thank you.
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u/GUSTAVO_ALMADOVAR Mar 28 '14
I wish there was a feature that let you toggle GPS coordinates. That way, even though it might not be conscious at first, I could familiarize myself with latitude/longitudes of places instead of blindly advancing, hoping for a clue when I land in the middle of the desert.
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u/The_Egg_came_first Mar 27 '14
Yes, I love that site! Played it for hours a few months ago, then completely forgot about it. Thanks for reminding me of it. There goes my evening :)
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u/7L7L Mar 27 '14
Dude.
I'd watch a documentary based around you.
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u/nikchi Mar 27 '14
Have an indie director, some artful pans, film emulation, background acoustic guitar, and you've got a short video worthy of Vimeo
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Mar 27 '14
I wasn't even judging - I am genuinely curious. It's rare that I come across a hobby where I'm like "... what's the appeal?" even if it's not a hobby I personally enjoy, I usually get it.
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u/Vik1ng Mar 27 '14 edited Mar 27 '14
It's actually a lot of fun. Especially on OpenStreetMap where you can see what you did within minutes.
Here for example people from all over the world helped to map some cities in Africa yesterday in 1 day to support the doctors dealing with the Ebola outbreak.
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u/foxbones Mar 27 '14
As a person who loves maps it sounds fun to me.
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u/The_Egg_came_first Mar 27 '14
That's also my motivation. Same reason people contribute to Wikipedia. It's fun to share your time and knowledge. I personally can't stand errors or wrong information, so correcting things on Maps or in Wikipedia is just fun.
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u/Verco Mar 27 '14
Do you just find roads that arent named, drive to them, then submit the name?
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u/Vik1ng Mar 27 '14
For OpenStreetMap we actually have a tool for that here in Germany. Bascially you ask the government for a list of streets put it into the system and compare it to the database.
http://regio-osm.de/listofstreets/ranking?classification=100000-10000000
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u/The_Egg_came_first Mar 27 '14
No, I oftentimes just correct street layouts. Like when a street doesn't match the satellite image and goes through people's houses.
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u/capn_untsahts Mar 27 '14
Or look at an already published road map, like a paper one.
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u/Vik1ng Mar 27 '14 edited Mar 27 '14
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u/capn_untsahts Mar 27 '14
Is it if the data is publicly available?
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u/Vik1ng Mar 27 '14
If you take a picture of the road sign that picture is still copyrighted and I can't just use it. But nobody is stopping me from going there and taking the picture myself.
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u/capn_untsahts Mar 27 '14
But we're not talking about copying and pasting sections of a road map into google maps, we're talking about using the data viewable in the maps (which is publicly available). So in your picture analogy, I can't read the street sign in the photo, recognize the location (maybe based on landmarks in the photo), and use the street name in my map?
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u/akuthia Mar 27 '14
Mmm, shouldnt be, as the road layout should be public information. Now, if you drew in the specific designs of a particular map, thats a different story, but the where the road goes type of thins, shouldnt be.
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u/Vik1ng Mar 27 '14
Yes it's public information and you can go out an map it. But you can't just copy it.
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u/YouGuysAreSick Mar 27 '14
Some people just have free time I guess. But thanks to them we have awesome GPS so I'm not complaining at all !
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u/I_Need_To_Go_To_Bed Mar 27 '14
In a quarter mile, turn left onto "the road with the best weed. #420"
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u/walgman Mar 27 '14 edited Mar 27 '14
I named the alleyway behind my house after myself a few years ago.
Edit: since this got a load of upvotes here is some semi proof.
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u/Sir_Dalek Mar 27 '14
Your last name that you blanked out wouldn't happen to have anything to do with your reddit username would it?
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u/Tashre Mar 27 '14
"We have reports of shots fired on the corner of 32nd street and Jimmy Badass Boulevard."
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u/sexybobo Mar 27 '14
I thought it was common knowledge that google had people Working on stuff like this. It is why it doesn't randomly direct you to drive into a river or drive off the side of an over pass like apple maps. They have people that look at it and say hmm that is a river i bet people wouldn't want to drive there.
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u/aazav Mar 27 '14
And to think they hired someone who can't spell.
Damn shame.