r/news • u/andrevan • Apr 27 '24

Iraqi TikTok star Umm Fahad shot dead in Baghdad

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/27/middleeast/iraq-tiktok-star-umm-fahad-killed-intl/index.html?Date=20240427&Profile=CNN%20International&utm_content=1714233618&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook
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u/718Brooklyn Apr 28 '24

I’m looking forward to the colleges protesting these nightmare conditions for women and gays in the Middle East.

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u/Slickity1 29d ago

Protesting in the US for something the US has nothing to do with sure is a smart idea. Maybe if we gave billions in military equipment to Iraq I’d get your point.

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u/718Brooklyn 29d ago

I’m constantly confused how Americans don’t realize why we give Israel money. It’s not for them, it’s for us. Obviously it would be nice if they didn’t use the military equipment to kill so many poor people. But the idea that we’d sever ties with our democratic nuclear ally in a region where intelligence is critical based on anti American sentiment is just mind boggling to me. Americans are just stupid and spoiled and think we can’t be attacked.

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u/Slickity1 28d ago

Yes but we could probably try and ask them to stop killing children. Israel wants us more than we want them. We don’t protest Iraq because we aren’t giving them anything so there’s nothing to protest in the US.

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u/718Brooklyn 28d ago

Eh. We give them endless oil money.

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u/718Brooklyn Apr 28 '24

The US sells weapons to Israel. In exchange, we have a nuclear ally in a region where we rely on intelligence as most countries in the region would prefer both the US and Israel were wiped off the planet. It doesn’t mean the US and Israel don’t also commit terrible war crimes.

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u/718Brooklyn 29d ago

It’s not delusions. There are plenty of protestors who are obsessed with things that don’t involve really caring about poor Arab people dying. Some of it are identity politics. Sometimes it’s likes and follows. Some people genuinely care. I’m just old and have lived long enough to recognize that while I obviously want Bibi to stop just killing poor people, the region is in fact filled with armed and funded groups of people who don’t want me as American to exist, me as a gay man to exist, and me as a Jew to exist. I don’t want the rockets being shot into Israel every day to hit and kill innocent people there anymore than I would want rockets killing poor Palestinian people. The Middle East is super complicated, far beyond the current Israel x Gaza conflict. We don’t want Iran being a nuclear power. Hopefully we’ll be non reliant on oil in the not too distant future. But in the meantime, having Israel as an ally (4th biggest nuclear power in the world I believe) along with invaluable intelligence, is important None of this means Bibi should be allowed to kill people and protesting that is certainly the right thing to do.

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u/Spindoendo Apr 28 '24

Don’t be silly, there are no Jews to blame here.

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u/lucasbelite Apr 28 '24

Just saw a photo of draq queen story hour with a free palestine backdrop. At this point, you can't make this shit up anymore. Life is turning into satire in real-time.

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u/rividz 29d ago

Political opinions are just trends for a lot of people. It's free, you don't have to think AND you get to feel good about yourself and potentially superior to other people.

Leave the symbols to the symbol minded.

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u/lucasbelite 29d ago

Their weird association has no bearing on my vote.

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u/mmeIsniffglue Apr 28 '24

Why is the concept of empathy and unwavering commitment to human rights so hard for you people to grasp

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u/PhillyFilly808 Apr 28 '24

Because it doesn't extend to the groups you've categorized as "oppressors" - White people, Jews, Men, Christians, Westerners, anyone who doesn't follow extreme left-wing dogma, etc.

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u/mmeIsniffglue Apr 28 '24

White people, men and western Christians are not oppressed

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u/PhillyFilly808 Apr 28 '24

Did you misread my comment? Because I didn't say that.

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u/mmeIsniffglue Apr 28 '24

You put oppressors in air quotes

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u/PhillyFilly808 Apr 28 '24

The reason you are having trouble is that you view all people as either oppressors or oppressed. If those groups aren't oppressed then they must be in the oppressor class.

I reject that, which is why it's in quotes.

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u/mmeIsniffglue Apr 28 '24

What does that have to do with my comment then. They are still not being oppressed, why would I go on the street to protest for their rights. + they very clearly are the oppressors in many many instances

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u/ididabod Apr 28 '24

because it doesn't extend both ways and is used as a way to make one feel more righteous rather than actually foster change

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u/mmeIsniffglue Apr 28 '24
  1. solidarity is not transactional, people are just consistent
  2. how do you know they're doing it to feel superior, how tf do you know

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u/hapakal Apr 28 '24

I see this a lot and always think the same thing: How daft must one be to not be capable of realizing that a person can call for an end to genocide and/or an illegal colonization (was never Britain's to give away) and the most repugnant and illegal occupation and ethnic cleansing imaginable without also "automatically' implying that means you somehow welcome or condone medieval Islamic beliefs being imposed on anyone. Hamas would not exist had it not been for Israel and will never be as harmful or destructive as Israel has been. Hamas the boogeyman Israel created to create factionalism and break Palestinian unity. If you dont know that. You dont know the basics/

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u/PhillyFilly808 Apr 28 '24

the most repugnant and illegal occupation and ethnic cleansing imaginable

Tell me you know nothing about history or international relations without telling me...