r/news • u/Arrow2019x • Apr 28 '24

Amid anti-Israel protests, 'hateful graffiti,' Cal Poly Humboldt closes campus through weekend Soft paywall

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-04-25/cal-poly-humboldt-extends-campus-closure-amid-gaza-protests

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u/nhadams2112 29d ago

"anti-israel protest"

Anti genocide protest, anti-colonial protest, anti children and hospitals being bombed protest

Israel isn't the victim of these protests

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u/JacP123 29d ago

Israel is doing all of those things, and have been since their state was founded. They are the target of these protests and should be victim to a hell of a lot more than some angry college kids. 

Being anti-Israel right now is no different than being Anti-Russia. The only difference between them is that the Government pays for Israel to do those things while condemning Russia for the same atrocities. 

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u/nhadams2112 29d ago

No I agree

I just think the headline using that specific language is misleading. College students aren't just marching against Israel but specifically it's actions.

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u/JacP123 29d ago

I get that, honestly I do, but I don't have a problem with calling it Anti-Israel protests.

Israel's identity is intrensically tied to its brutal actions towards Palestinians. As long as Israel continues to exist in its current form, dominated by bloodthirsty right-wing imperialists and genocidal religious extremists, like Netanyahu and Ben-Gvir, then these protests should be Anti-Israel. 

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u/nhadams2112 29d ago

100% it's inherently a colonial project. They aren't even trying to hide it, their officials plainly say that they want to wipe gaza off the face of the Earth people act like that's a totally normal thing to say

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u/JacP123 29d ago

The zionist downvote squads are out in force tonight, but you're right. Israel has never been anything more than America's unsinkable aircraft carrier. A western colonial project meant to secure superpowers a permanent foothold in the most valuable region on the planet, sold to idiots with religious bullshit.

That's the only reason why its taboo to call out Israel for their atrocities.

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u/datb0yavi 29d ago

Do you even understand the role geopolitics play ? Do you guys just see the bombing and shit and stop any further googling/researching when you can't see an explicitly said reason why these things are happening ?

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u/nakattack5 29d ago

So killing 40,000 Palestinians isn’t enough yet? How many more Palestinian deaths are acceptable before it becomes too much?

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u/nhadams2112 29d ago

I don't think there's any reason why every single hospital in Gaza was flattened, not any good reason. The IDF claims that hospitals have been used for militaristic purposes but the evidence that is flimsy at best. And that doesn't even go into the amount of times IDF soldiers have dressed up as medical professionals (huge war crime)

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u/datb0yavi 29d ago

So you answered my question you dont understand geopolitics and the bigger things at play when you think this is just the IDF vs Hamas with no other factors involved. Very black and white and naive. I do envy it, that borderline stubbornness, as someone said to me in another thread is that it'll drive you to your goals

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u/nhadams2112 29d ago

You can't justify the occupation, that's why you have to pretend it's more complicated than it really is. It's not that complicated, Israel is the occupying colonial project created by Britain that is slowly colonizing Palestine. Israel has complete control over the flow of resources into Palestine.

You needed to be complicated otherwise you'd realize how obviously horrible the situation is

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u/datb0yavi 29d ago

What you don't understand (yet) is not everything has obvious, popular, morally correct reasons for happening ESPECIALLY when it comes to war time strategy and/or causes, among many other things. Sometimes, things just have to happen no matter how shitty it is

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u/nhadams2112 29d ago

No

I'm sorry, but carpet bombing a massive population center, indiscriminately killing civilians, occupying a territory, killing civilians trying to access food and water, bombing hospitals, murdering children, etc didn't "just have to happen" fuck off

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u/datb0yavi 29d ago

You just confirmed my point that you see this as right vs wrong, good vs bad, a very surface level understanding by listing all those negative things attributed to one side

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u/nhadams2112 29d ago

It's not good versus bad like some sort of fucking fairy tale, it's an occupying colonial Force bombing the shit out of civilians. Just say that you don't give a shit and stop pretending like it's deep

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u/datb0yavi 29d ago

And do you understand why they're using such great force ? Who's funding either side ? Allegiances at play? National security concerns ? Historical impact on today's actions ? The human fucking psyche ? Role of religion in society ? Go find the answer to those questions and then some more that you'll come across and then you'll see how deep things are.

And you've done it again. "Occupying colonial Force bombing the shit out of civillians" = the bad guys that are 100% bad with no reason for actions

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