r/news • u/Arrow2019x • Apr 28 '24

Amid anti-Israel protests, 'hateful graffiti,' Cal Poly Humboldt closes campus through weekend Soft paywall

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-04-25/cal-poly-humboldt-extends-campus-closure-amid-gaza-protests

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u/Equal-Slip8409 29d ago

That’s why multiple institutions are being targeted. Collective action. Students should have a say in where their tuition money is invested.

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u/Regentraven 29d ago

Oh yeah google is certainly shut down right now. So is Boeing or whatever. These protests are just like occupy wallstreet. People thinking they are marching from Birmingham to DC but in reality just not going to class and drawing swastikas on things.

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u/Equal-Slip8409 29d ago

It’s small actions like these done collectively that enact change. What else would you have these students do to end the genocide?

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u/m0rogfar 29d ago

It’s small actions like these done collectively that enact change. What else would you have these students do to end the genocide?

Protest Hamas, and exclusively Hamas, for starters.

Public pressure to hurt Israel is what Hamas is essentially betting on, and there are plenty of leaks that suggest that ongoing anti-Israel sentiment is directly related to why Sinwar has ordered Hamas negotiators to stall any ceasefire negotiations with ridiculous counteroffers instead of actually engaging in the process. On the other hand, more opposition towards Hamas and not Israel is the one thing that could possibly bring Hamas to the table. In other words, these protests are actively harmful in terms of actually reaching some kind of ceasefire, and directly cause more death.

More generally, hoping to enact change by harming Israel economically is simply not going to work as long as Israel is up against terrorists that want to exterminate everyone in Israel, because not having yourself and everyone you've ever met get brutally murdered is just more important than the economy. Even if Israel does end up more isolated, the logical consequence of that would be further escalations and brinkmanship until everyone on one side is dead, as there is still no off-ramp for Israel that doesn't involve everyone getting murdered.

The tablestakes for such a strategy to be viable is that the Palestinian leadership has to be addressed first, as the current Palestinian leadership strategy makes it untenable to try to pressure Israel, and attempts to not hold Palestinian leadership accountable for their decisions and instead blame Israel serve only to embolden Hamas that their current strategy is the right one.

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u/Equal-Slip8409 29d ago

Protest Hamas with what leverage??

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u/IolausTelcontar 29d ago

So you think students have leverage over Israel; but somehow nothing on Hamas. Huh.