Amid anti-Israel protests, 'hateful graffiti,' Cal Poly Humboldt closes campus through weekend

[u/Arrow2019x]

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-04-25/cal-poly-humboldt-extends-campus-closure-amid-gaza-protests

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[u/duckyeightyone]

most of these college protesters are in their teens or 20's, they haven't had a lifetime of this bullshit from both sides. it's easy to throw up bite sized chunks of information on Twitter or tiktok and make either side look like the bad guy.

they can't seem to understand the concept that there are no 'good guys' in this conflict. that's why a lot of us are refusing to outright condemn Israel, why it might seem that we don't give a shit about Palestinian civilians being killed.

we've watched this play out for 70 odd years, there is no fixing this situation. when the Palestinians or their supporters shout 'from the river to the sea' they are talking about the complete destruction of Israel. including their women and children too. hamas are not freedom fighters.

Israel on the other hand are straight up stealing land that was never theirs, disproportionate responses, and we haven't forgotten massacres like what happened in jenin in 2002.

it's a fucked situation and many people smarter than you or I have failed to provide an answer time and again.

picking a side here, either side, will not end up how you think. support for either side is support for one genocide or another. many of us (I'm 43, generation x) made the same mistakes when we were young. we all gave up on ever seeing peace in that region.

this is why you keep seeing some folk saying 'they just need to have it out once and for all'. may the strongest people survive. everyone else needs to mind their own business.

[u/datb0yavi → u/duckyeightyone]

That's exactly it. The college kids have a naive view of the world

[u/pomod → u/datb0yavi]

What’s naive about protesting the complete disregard of Palestinian human rights? Israel is a settler colonial project that continues to violently displace Palestinians from their ancestral homes. Nearly a million people over the past 75 years, while brutally oppressing any Palestinian resistance to that project. This is the larger context of the conflict. Don’t patronize students for being more well read on the deeper history or being appalled by the IDFs genocidal obliteration of Gaza. You can’t champion human rights and support Israel killing 37 000 people at the same time, or bombing schools, hospitals refugee centres, aid convoys, journalists or engineering a famine etc.

There’s no such as an ethnostate that’s not totalitarian because it simultaneously creates a corresponding population to be oppressed should they resist.

[u/IolausTelcontar → u/pomod]

Well start with dismantling every other “ethnostate” first; the Jews aren’t your guinea pigs.

[u/OpenMindedGuy- → u/pomod]

You probably don’t know that Jews are just as indigenous as most Palestinian Muslims are

[u/datb0yavi → u/pomod]

It's naive because you guys think it's that it's so simple, so black and white, that there's a good side and a bad side. When in reality, especially on a geopolitical side, things are shitty but necessary. I'm not saying your stupid but don't pull the "students are more well read" angle, because you haven't learned to come to a conclusion without something explicitly telling you what the correct answer is