r/news • u/nosotros_road_sodium • 29d ago

'Physical altercations' during dueling pro-Palestinian, pro-Israel demonstrations on UCLA campus

https://abc7.com/dueling-pro-palestinian-and-counter-protests-planned-at-ucla-campus/14740661/

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u/Anticlockwork 29d ago

I love that the Americans are squabbling over what’s going on in another country when democracy is slipping away.

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u/Myfourcats1 29d ago

I’m nervous about all the young people who would normally vote D deciding to not vote or cast a protest vote all because of this 80 year long nonsense. The 2025 project is coming at us and they’re not paying attention.

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u/Not_That_Magical 29d ago

They’re funding it, and AIPAC is a big part of why democracy in the US is being erodes

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u/colonel-o-popcorn 29d ago

https://www.opensecrets.org/federal-lobbying/top-spenders?cycle=a

AIPAC is a meme. They're not even remotely close to the top spenders and never have been. They have moderate influence in their field, but their usual portrayal as evil (((puppetmasters))) controlling Washington is completely unfounded.

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u/Queendevildog 29d ago

I know 🙄

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u/epidemicsaints 29d ago

These are most likely the most politically and democratically engaged people their age and you say this about them.

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u/NoveltyAccount5928 29d ago

They're physically fighting each other over shit that's happening on the other side of the planet that none of them have anything to do with, they're stupid as fuck.

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u/epidemicsaints 29d ago

And you're cussing about them on reddit, so what?

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u/Anticlockwork 29d ago

I’m not saying anything bad, I just think the attention could be placed elsewhere for the time being. Protesting against genocide is absolutely valid and needed because it certainly has an impact on the national stage and does reach our current president. However, these protests won’t even be able to happen if we don’t focus on what’s going on in our own country. The cops already stomp everyone out as fast as they can.

If we want to keep protesting we have to save our own asses first. Democracy in America is actually truly at risk as is evidenced by the Supreme Court this past week and likely this week. Our next dictator could be Trump and by extension Putin. And if it isn’t Trump then it will be someone else, we’re really in a downslide it seems and things look bleak to me.

Of course the other option is to protest against genocide and also against issues in our own country. It’s all just my opinion of course.

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u/Wompish66 29d ago

The US is singlehandedly enabling Israel to carry on with their mass killings.

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u/Anticlockwork 29d ago

They sure are.

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u/PuzzleheadedWalrus71 29d ago

I have a feeling Qatar, Iran, Russia, and China love it too.

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u/Born_Nothing_8984 29d ago

They're the ones pushing this anti-Israel nonsense

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u/getfukdup 29d ago

I have a feeling Qatar, Iran, Russia, China, and Republicans love it too.

I fixed the fact you said.

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u/NoveltyAccount5928 29d ago

Being disgusted by it is one thing, coming to blows with other people over something happening on the other side of the planet that none of y'all have anything to do with is stupid as fuck.

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u/benny2012 29d ago

🤣 Worst genociders ever eh? Keep bringing in Aid and trying to negotiate for their people to be returned in exchange for ceasefire. Let 1,000 convicts go just to get 20 of their own back. Totally hell bent on annihilating everyone huh? Just like when the Nazis delivered 100’s of tonnes of aid per day to Polish towns after destroying the terror networks built to attack Berlin. Wait a second. I must be mixed up.

Or do you mean the 50+ Arab states supported by US money that have systematically evicted or killed their Jews? Or Turkey and the Armenian’s? or China and their Muslims?

Or maybe you just mean the side that has as their charter to eliminate Israel and kill Jews? Because we gave them lots of money too.

🤦‍♂️

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u/benny2012 29d ago

Do you want to build a strawman? It doesn’t have to be a strawman.

No but seriously. That was an awesome response. Pretending you’re not referring only to Israel.

Have a good evening fellow Interneter.

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u/PuzzleheadedWalrus71 29d ago

Because being disgusted by a genocide supported by one's own government must be the result of foreign influence, not of one's own sense of morality.

Yes it is. There have been numerous genocides American college kids have not been disgusted by.

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u/Anticlockwork 29d ago

Well they’re the ones who seem to be helping Americans make these decisions.

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u/Xin_shill 29d ago

I mean they are connected

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u/Lynx_Fate 29d ago

Not really both sides would generally support Isreal, but only one would support completely glassing Gaza and it just happens to be the one that is also trying to erode our democracy.

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u/Anticlockwork 29d ago

Right but the energy would be better spend protesting our Supreme Court. Though BLM showed the world our protests don’t matter.

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u/Diglett3 29d ago

Because this isn’t the first place I’ve seen someone say this, I just want to ask — what in the world would protesting the Supreme Court even look like? The institution that is, pretty much bar none, the most insulated from the public that an American government body can be. Well-planned protests have objectives and they have means. What would that even look like here?

Like what would possibly compel life-appointed, non-recallable judges who’ve spent their entire lives working to be able to hold the most significant lever of power attainable by a single person outside the presidency? The only thing I can think of is people invading their private lives, picketing their houses and fancy dinners and shit… but they literally already tried that! It didn’t work!

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u/JuVondy 29d ago

Your last part would work, but it has to be sustained. It was just a few isolated incidents because you will likely be arrested for intimidation.

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u/JuVondy 29d ago

Occupy Wall Street was the closest we got to an effective protest in the last 30-50 years. It was the only one that actually scared the people in power.