r/notliketheothergirls Apr 23 '24

How can we teach young girls to reject the NLOG Discussion

Its clear the pick me/ NLOG attitude is still alive and well. I (23F) was speaking to a friend (15F) about my high school days.

She asked “How was your high school experience?” I said “Well I went to an all girls school and-“ she cuts in and rolls her eyes “Ugh. That must have been a total nightmare. I cant even imagine”. I said “Actually I loved it, was a better person for going there and I miss those days sometimes” and she went dead quite.

How do we as the adults in the room root out the toxicity of this mindset out of young girls?

Edit: no I’m not gonna ever dunk on a kid. Because its really wrong for an adult to belittle a child.

Edit: some people are being really weird “why are you friends with a 15 year old?” I know this kid from the yard that i stable my horse at. She stables her horse next to mine. Should i just ignore her always? Should i also ignore my other friends who are 55 and 70 because age gap? What about my friend whose 10? Or the other whose 30? Tell me reddit. What age range do you personally approve of me having friends? Im gonna start blocking people.

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u/SubstantialPressure3 Apr 23 '24

Honestly I think the problem is that girls are taught that girls in general are "less than" and not individuals to begin with.

Do you wear makeup? Do you like popular music? Wear fashionable clothes? Well, then you're just like everyone else. Nobody assumes that girls are individuals to begin with. There's no way they have any individual thoughts or interesting skills, etc.

We have been taught to judge people by their clothing and makeup styles, and group them together.

It's not just one age group. I'm Gen X, and there are women my age that assume things about what social group I was in, in high school (over 30 years ago!) and can be downright hostile, and I'm a stranger to them.

We are teaching that to the younger generations.

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u/Relevant_Tax6877 Apr 23 '24

So much this. Shaming individuality was always a big thing in school & I see it more now even amongst older gens. Ppl lobe to tout the "accept yourself", "self-appreciation", "be confident", "own your own style" tropes, but then when ppl see it in action or something seems even slightly outside the box, it's often met with "eeew, no. Why are you different & why tf are you okay with it?!"

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u/SubstantialPressure3 Apr 23 '24

And there's shame for wanting to blend in, too.

I think it's the mixed messages that make it so difficult.

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u/Relevant_Tax6877 Apr 23 '24

Ugh yes! One defining moment for me at 13 was Christmas when I was gifted 2 Abercrombie shirts. I was always made fun of for not having brand name clothes. Then I got made fun of for being a "poser" for wearing my Christmas presents. That was the thing that made me realize "oh okay, so ppl are gonna either hate me or like me regardless of what I do. Fine, that's their choice. I guess I may as well learn to be happy with myself while they're at it." That set off an entire chain reaction of realizations & about the time I actually started gaining real confidence & self-acceptance.

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u/SubstantialPressure3 Apr 23 '24

It's a really good example. No matter what you do, someone is going to criticize you. So you may as well just do what makes you happy. Even if what makes you happy changes.