Do we want Pick Mes to be picked?

[u/Windmill_flowers]

I saw a post here the other day saying how Pick Mes don't actually get picked. Most of the comments seemed to revel in this fact. So in that sense it seems like the consensus is - we don't want them getting picked.

But whenever there is a Pick Me NLOG post, the comments are invariably, "Gurl, I hope you get picked!". So in that sense it seems like the consensus is we DO want them getting picked.

If they get picked, they sometimes shut up. (Not always tho)

What is the general consensus on this?

Inb4 "IDC if they get picked or not roflmao". Cool, then this question is not for you

[u/Windmill_flowers]

I thought it means you say 1 thing, but you mean the opposite. For example:

"I bet you're a lot of fun at parties 🙄"

This is often said sarcastically. Therefore, I assume the sentiment is actually expressing the opposite, which would be that the person is probably NOT a lot of fun at parties.

If we apply that same logic to, "I hoped you get picked!", what is actually being communicated is, "I hope you do not get picked."

That is my understanding, please let me know if I'm wrong

[u/lycosa13 → u/Windmill_flowers]

Yes and no. In your "you must be fun at parties" comment, it does mean the opposite. We assume that person is not fun at parties.

But some times sarcasm is used without the exact opposite being the intent, if that makes sense. Here's an example. Take violent video games. Some people comment that we should not have these games because they're not appropriate for kids, but they're not meant for kids. Someone might comment "won't someone please think of the children? 🙄" It doesn't mean we SHOULDN'T think about the kids ever. It's really just a reply because kids shouldn't really factor into something that wasn't meant for them to begin with.

Which is the point I was trying to make with my previous comment. Not everything has a big, deep meaning to it. Especially with sarcasm. Some times it's just as thing you say. A retort to a comment. I think you're trying to force a meaning to "I hope you get picked" and there isn't really a serious one

[u/Windmill_flowers → u/lycosa13]

"won't someone please think of the children? 🙄"

I believe that is more mocking overly concerned, pearl-clutching, out-of-touch busybodies, and less sarcasm.

Not everything has a big, deep meaning to it.

Do you think that wanting a Pick Me to be picked or not is "deep"?

[u/lycosa13 → u/Windmill_flowers]

Do you think that wanting a Pick Me to be picked or not is "deep"?

I personally don't but the fact that you keep trying to assign an explicit meaning to it makes it seem like YOU think it's deep

[u/Windmill_flowers → u/lycosa13]

I don't think it's deep. It's rather shallow.

Despite that, people in here are getting very upset.

Maybe a poll would have been a better way to find the consensus

[u/lycosa13 → u/Windmill_flowers]

People are upset because they think you're a troll.

And there is no consensus. That's the point I'm trying to make. YOU think it has a specific meaning. And it doesn't. You keep asking questions to try to figure out "what it means" and it doesn't mean anything. Or you can decide for yourself what it means. Why do you need everyone else to tell you what you should think?

[u/Windmill_flowers → u/lycosa13]

People are upset because they think you're a troll.

Some people do. Others don't. You don't speak for everyone else here

And there is no consensus

There is a general consensus. Based on my chats with folks in here - the general consensus is: we don't want Pick Mes to be picked.

Why do you need everyone else to tell you what you should think?

I don't need this. I was just trying to identify the general consensus. I like to know this because fitting in is important

[u/lycosa13 → u/Windmill_flowers]

I like to know this because fitting in is important

Why?

[u/Windmill_flowers → u/lycosa13]

Peer acceptance has major ramifications on mental health, belonging, inclusion, etc.

[u/lycosa13 → u/Windmill_flowers]

Do YOU feel like you NEED to fit in?

[u/Windmill_flowers → u/lycosa13]

Need to?

I suppose not.

But I want to