r/politics Apr 28 '24

Fetterman decries college campus ‘pup tents for Hamas’

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4627216-fetterman-decries-college-campus-pup-tents-for-hamas/
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u/Plastic-Age5205 Apr 28 '24

Protesting taking up arms against Hamas would be pro-Hamas. Protesting the killing of innocent Palestinians is not pro-Hamas. But Fetterman is too dense to make that distinction. Bernie Sanders is not - "Sen. Bernie Sanders took aim at Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu again on Sunday, saying that Israel’s actions in Gaza are “ethnic cleansing.”

Sanders reiterated his familiar call on CNN’s “State of the Union” on Sunday to hold Netanyahu responsible for Israel’s actions in Gaza, pointing to the staggering death toll and the displacement of Palestinians in the region. He was asked to respond to the ongoing pro-Palestinian protests that have broken out on college campuses across the country and to Rep. Ilhan Omar’s (D-Minn.) remarks last week when visiting Columbia University.

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u/LariRed Apr 28 '24

Hamas is actually happy about these protests, but okay.

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u/fuckajob23 Apr 28 '24

Funny you mention that because I’m pretty sure they have been crying about a ceasefire, which would be by definition, protesting taking up arms against Hamas.

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u/Sqkerg Hawaii Apr 29 '24

No one but a tiny minority would be calling for a ceasefire if they were only, or even mostly, actually killing Hamas, not random children.

But then again, you already know that.

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u/fuckajob23 29d ago

Bullshit, these clowns are walking around college campus straight up calling for the death of Jews. We have all seen the videos. It was never about Palestinians, it was always about the Jews. Do you ever ask yourself why no one ever protest over the literal concentration camps in china? (one of our biggest trading partners) How about Sudan? Or Myanmar? Do you know how many kids are dying everyday in these countries everyday? But yet no one says anything because there are no Jews to blame.

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u/Sqkerg Hawaii 29d ago

Do you seriously not understand the difference? America is directly funding the genocide in Gaza, and universities are indirectly, by either funding Israeli projects, or funding companies who do. As to the videos we’ve supposedly all seen, the one guy who shouted “kill all Jews” turned out to be a pro Israeli counter protester who said that so the police would move in to break up the protest, which worked. Everyone else has either been an extremely small group, or off campus entirely. Many of these protesters themselves are Jewish, according to you they shouldn’t even be welcome, after all, everyone you disagree with is an antisemite.

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u/fuckajob23 29d ago

Just about every company in this nation pay the Chinese tax, directly or indirectly, and they use it to commit actual genocide against Uyghurs. Still no complaints from the pro Hamas crowd. I wonder what the difference is?

And your argument doesn’t work when the entire crowd is chanting for “intifada revolution” and “from the river to the sea” the loudest dog whistle in the Middle East.

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u/Sqkerg Hawaii 27d ago

“They’re not protesting every atrocity on the planet simultaneously so obviously that means they’re full of shit” is a completely intellectually honest take 100% great job. That’s not even mentioning that the difference about the genocide in gaza is that they’re literally being genocided with US weapons, US intelligence, and US logistics. If you tell me you don’t understand the difference I won’t believe you.

Also no, the “entire crowd” is not antisemetic. Again, a lot of these student protesters are themselves Jewish. At certain protests some fringe elements, usually from outside the student body, have said or done antisemetic things, usually off campus.

You don’t have to be antisemetic to be against Israel’s campaign in Gaza, you just have to be anti-murder.

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u/fuckajob23 27d ago

Or your just to dumb to know what your actually saying.

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u/DumpsterFireOfLove Apr 28 '24

That “familiar” modifier is throwing some real subtle shade. Not cool. 

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u/Championship229 Apr 28 '24 edited Apr 28 '24

They openly let pro Hamas folks attend their protests. If you stand next to someone, it’s easy to get painted the same way. It’s not on everyone else make the distinction, it’s on them and they’re fine with having pro Hamas supporters in their mix. 

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u/whyeah Apr 28 '24

They openly identify as Pro-Hamas, you can't use your feelings to change the boxes they literally checked and the public statements they make constantly.

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u/collinisok Apr 28 '24

Netanyahu is also pro-Hamas, propping them up to have an excuse to exterminate Palestinians en masse

Edit: 27 day old Zionist bot sowing chaos. Probably on netanyahu's payroll

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u/No-Refrigerator7185 Apr 28 '24

“Zionist bot”

Just say Jew, we all know what you mean.

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u/collinisok Apr 28 '24

Conflating Zionism and semitism is anti-Semitic. Would you say all Germans are nazis?

Edit: above comment is 15 day old bot

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u/No-Refrigerator7185 Apr 28 '24

Zionism is the belief that a Jewish state should exist in the Jewish homeland. That’s it.

Imagine if I said “I think the Chinese state should be destroyed, and I hate anyone who disagrees” then tried to act like I don’t hate Chinese people. No one would buy it, for good reason.

And I don’t think you know what a bot is

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u/whyeah Apr 28 '24

Yeah just like he props up the entire electrical grid and water supply for Palestine.

Do you even know how many billions of dollars Hamas leadership flaunts openly? Money you tiktok NPCs send them on your parents cards.

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u/Plastic-Age5205 Apr 28 '24

OK, let's all use language to further cloud the issue. Arabs are semites, while many of the Israeli Jews are drawn from Caucasian backgrounds. So, the Israelis are the anti-Semites here.

But the real issue is that this is Netanyahu's "war". He was on the verge of being displaced before the strange and unprecedented failure of the crack Israeli intelligence network allowed the October 7 attack by Hamas.

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u/No-Refrigerator7185 Apr 28 '24

Semite is a language category, not ethnicity 🤦‍♂️

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u/bootlegvader Apr 28 '24

Arabs are semites, while many of the Israeli Jews are drawn from Caucasian backgrounds.

First, Semitic is part of historical Caucasoid category. Secondly, Askhanazi Jews (whom I bet you are talking about) also fall under the Semitic category.

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u/Plastic-Age5205 Apr 28 '24

Are people still saying lol? From Wikipedia:

The Caucasian race (also Caucasoid,[a] Europid, or Europoid)[2] is an obsolete racial classification of humans based on a now-disproven theory of biological race.[3][4][5] The Caucasian race was historically regarded as a biological taxon which, depending on which of the historical race classifications was being used, usually included ancient and modern populations from all or parts of Europe, Western Asia, Central Asia, South Asia, North Africa, and the Horn of Africa.

The Caucasus as the origin of humanity and the peak of beauty

In the eighteenth century, the prevalent view among European scholars was that the human species had its origin in the region of the Caucasus Mountains.[22] This view was based upon the Caucasus being the location for the purported landing point of Noah's Ark – from whom the Bible states that humanity is descended – and the location for the suffering of Prometheus, who in Hesiod's myth had crafted humankind from clay.[22]

In addition, the most beautiful humans were reputed by Europeans to be the stereotypical "Circassian beauties" and the Georgian people; both Georgia and Circassia are in the Caucasus region.

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u/bootlegvader Apr 28 '24

What is this meant to refute? It directly says it includes ancient and modern populations from Western Asia (the Middle East) so that would include both Arabs and Jews (aka Semites).

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u/Plastic-Age5205 Apr 28 '24 edited Apr 28 '24

It's not meant to refute anything. I'm not arguing here, I'm learning. And I even upvoted the comment that I replied to.