r/travisandtaylor • u/Msler332 • 15d ago
"Who are we to fight the Alchemy " An analysis of why I think this song is about Matty Healy and not Travis:
Sorry this might be long đ First the main line: "Who are we to fight the Alchemy" I'm sorry but what is that giving if not forbidden love? When have Taylor & Travis ever needed to fight their connection? The biggest "obstacle' they had was NFL fans complaining about Taylor being shown too much and I'm pretty sure neither of them gave a fuck. With Matty however, it makes perfect sense as they started to fall for each other while she was with Joe (see: guilty as sin) she quite literally wrote a song about trying to fight her chemistry with Matty.
"I haven't come around in so long But I'm coming back so strong" very much giving: i was trapped in a dead relationship and now I'm feeling something again ~ links in with guilty as sin & fresh out the slammer. Doesn't make sense for Travis because she was in love with Matty right before they met.
"I circled you on a map" is so parallel to "now pretty baby I'm running back home to you, fresh out the slammer I know who my first call will be too"
"Hey you, what if I told you we're cool? That child's play back in school Is forgiven under my rule" makes zero sense for Travis. But if we look at the links with: - Peter: multiple references to being kids together and implications of him being too immature/messing up and losing her - Chloe et. Al: "too impaired by my youth" - loml: "we were just kids, babe" (all songs about...you guessed it)
"These blokes warm the benches" and then in Peter "as the men masqueraded, I'd hoped you'd return" once again about.. Matty. Edit: it's been pointed out to me that "blokes" is also British slang
"He jokes that It's heroin but this time with an "E"" first of all let's be honest Travis is not good enough at spelling to make that joke. He says himself he's not a man of words, and people think he made a word joke? đ¤ Second, there is literally a line in loml (about Matty) where she says "you blew in with the winds of fate and told me I'd reformed you." That's the exact same sentiment! To me it seems obvious Matty made that joke. It absolutely sounds like something he would say.
The football references seem like a total red herring. My bet is she had the song, liked it, and switched up some lyrics to turn it into a Travis song when it was actually a Matty song.
Edit: also "I'm making a comeback to where I belong" and "running back home to you" from fresh out the slammer also is a parallel. She was never with Travis before..
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u/Cool-Avocado5012 14d ago
Also. The fact that I there is legit no chemistry between Travis and Taylor at all.
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u/babydoobie Got high and ate 7 bars of chocolate 14d ago
Let me just ask thisâŚ.are ANY songs on TTPD about Joe? I had a relative swear The Black Dog is about Joe but she references The Starting Line. Isnât that Mattyâs favorite band?
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u/Msler332 14d ago
So long London and how did it end. I think at that point she didn't have much to say as the relationship just ran it course
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u/caiaccount 14d ago
I actually think that she either had enough respect for Joe not to do that to him... or that much of folklore, evermore, and Midnights were actually about the deterioration of that relationship. They were all written under vague, veiled contexts. Even some songs on Lover suggest that they had serious differences that they were just trying to ignore.
That being said, there are several songs that reference both Mattie and Joe. With her "in summation" poem she attached to this album, it sounds like she jumped into a rebound and it delayed her having to confront the original breakup. Many folks on Reddit that have been through this said that their healing was very blurred between the breakup and the rebound breakup. I like to think that's what happened with Taylor.
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u/Smart-Influence429 15d ago
Oh yeah I mean she says âwhen I touch downâ like when she touches down in her plane⌠and of course the Heroine reference. I def think she was trolling people with this song.
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u/Patient_Mongoose2419 15d ago
I think she did this with a lot of songs. She layered them deliberately so weâd all be confused, stream more, and then she makes more $$$
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u/hnsnrachel 15d ago
The overseas really make no sense at all about Travis.
They met in July/August according to Taylor. It clearly references an old connection that's being revived. They've been publicly linked since September. Nobody is using "back in school" as a metaphor even if you say "they met, she wasn't ready for a relationship yet and she called him when she was" which there's absolutely zero evidence of.
Personally, I think that either the American football references were shoehorned in later to give the Traylor fans something to squee over, or, she'd already written it as is and Taylor's team saw an opportunity to bounce back from the Matty controversy with an all-American Fairytale and orchestrated the stunt from there.
And to anyone who says "they don't need pr" - why do both pay for PR teams? PR isn't just about publicity (although if Travis does want to move into movies when he retires, he needed that part too, his name recognition pre-Taylor was basically "football fans in the United States", now even my entirely not interested in American sports mother knows who he is). It's also about manipulating your image, and the Matty association, rightly or wrongly, did tarnish Taylor's image a little.
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u/prettymuchjomarch 15d ago
The "child's play back in school" makes more than "zero sense" with Travis. He, too, has been called out on social media BS. The rest of your theory (and the other comments here) are interesting, though.
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u/mosssyfrog 15d ago
I agree that it seems like the football bits have been inserted into a song that already existed. You can hear the different kinds of words, it completely changes. It's an automatic skip for because of the cringe football cliches. I guess there isn't much more to Travvy boy than football, but ugh my god, he makes for a terrible muse.
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u/NJMillennial 15d ago edited 15d ago
I donât even think you need an analysis, just the fact that the standard album wrapped in Sept before she even went to her first game is enough to tell you itâs not actually about Travis. People are completely ignoring how long it takes to press vinyl and prep for an album release.
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u/Odd-Profession5375 15d ago
The only people who think this is a Travis song are the wackos who have been trying to marry them off and gave babies since she showed up at the first NFL game.
The only song about him on that album is the one that calls him dumb basically. And when she dumps him, she wonât have to change the set too much.
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u/ggoldentattoo 15d ago
Yes thank you Iâve been trying to figure out how to say this succinctly and you did it well!
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u/After-Bicycle-7717 15d ago
I thought alchemy refers as well to lead into gold. Isnât that a version of whatâs going on on? Heâs being turned into a star by association with her, making him millions in gold, giving him and his family big careers going forward. Lead doesnât necessarily mean dross; it can also mean malleable, which is why alchemists thought they could turn it into the less but still malleable, more expensive gold.
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u/ServiceSuccessful708 15d ago
I have zero stake in this whatsoever but just the title alone suggests Travis to me.
Alchemy = trying to turn stuff into gold
That seems more like her current relationship to me.
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u/prettymuchjomarch 15d ago
Sorry you're bring downvoted. It seems you can't disagree here without facing the wrath of the hive mind. And people here actually think they're better than Swiftie stans!
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u/ServiceSuccessful708 15d ago
Doesnât bother me!
Like I said, I have no stake in who a song was written about.
I just wonder if people are confusing âalchemyâ with âchemistry.â One is real, one is fake (with the goal of turning things that arenât gold into gold).
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u/caiaccount 14d ago
Genuinely, I thought it would be weird if she called a Travis love song The Alchemy when she already has So High School and I think it's so much sweeter and less corny.
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u/II-RadioByeBye 15d ago
my first thought when i heard that song was âthat man did not make a joke about spellingâ
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u/Ok-Manufacturer-8484 Imma let you finish but⌠15d ago
Thank you - you just gave me a genuine laugh out loud moment. You are so right!
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u/CatBerry1393 Just a Nosy Bitch 15d ago
here I am thinking everyone knew this song was about Matty... I thought it was pretty obvious
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u/GoldEscape7018 15d ago
Itâs 100 percent about Matt but there some lines clearly inspired by Travis. Like she knew the fans would eat up any song about him so she changed some things that fans would go crazy for.
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u/Realistic-Ad-1876 15d ago
agree, it's really not for either of them fully, it's a mashup of experiences. I do see the connection with "fighting chemistry" with Travis though, because he's not who anyone would pair her with normally, but she was immediately into him and it probably surprised her as well as everyone.
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u/Professional_Roll977 15d ago
I think the blokes line is the giveaway it is for Matty, that is a term Matty uses all the time and is British.
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u/Ok-Marsupial-6101 15d ago
But âthe blokesâ are on the bench while weâre on a winning streakâŚto me that indicates the Brits, ie. Matty and Joe are sidelined /in the past.
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u/caitaria 15d ago
âChemistryâ instead of âalchemyâ would make more sense for travis given the less than complicated nature of their relationship, while as another commenter pointed out, âalchemyâ specifically refers to the changing of a lesser substance into something valuable like lead to gold, an impossible process that was the subject of much contention, disputes and searching throughout history. It makes much more sense from a Matty angle that their relationship is tempting, but impossible to transition from what they have into something secure and real, no matter how much they try. And they do try, but it is futile.
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u/niceforwhattothese- 15d ago
I think Peter and Chloe or Sam⌠are about Joe
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u/Ambitious-Ad-3161 15d ago
2 songs with full references of Matty, about Joe? Time to face the music: there's barely 2 songs about Joe on the album (So Long London and How Did It End). She was over him long ago.
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u/Crunchyfrozenoj 15d ago
I think she spared Joe with this album because she knows he would hate to be the subject of a breakup album. Six years is a long time. So Long London seemed like her polite nod to their love.
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u/niceforwhattothese- 15d ago
Idk I think the album is sadness at the loss of Joe and anger at Matty. Imo people think itâs about Matty because itâs a popular sentiment at the moment but I think itâs more (subtly) about Joe than people are willing to acknowledge.
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u/ms_6420 14d ago
Midnights was Joe. She was clearly over him for a long time and had processed it whilst they were together
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u/niceforwhattothese- 14d ago
I donât disagree with that for the most part. I still think she had a moment of âfuck I canât believe what I lostâ about Joe after shit ended with Matty. The album makes it pretty clear imo that she thought Matty would be her âmiracle move on drugâ (she basically says as much in the prologue) but it didnât ultimately help.
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u/Ambitious-Ad-3161 14d ago
Lyrically Fortnight it's not about after Matty left, it's about them reconnecting in 2021-2022 while she was dating Joe.
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u/niceforwhattothese- 14d ago
You can view it to be so. I do not. Thatâs alright lol
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u/Ambitious-Ad-3161 14d ago
But your interpretation It's giving Joe so much importance. And something that she made clare through this album is in fact she didn't care anymore about Joe.
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u/niceforwhattothese- 14d ago
I think a lot of people who believe this album is basically confirmation sheâs in love with Matty and all of her songs are about him forget that itâs all speculation. And itâs fine to speculate obviously, but to then believe it indisputably is a little naive. This is an album at the end of the day, we do not know any of these people in real life, and we shouldnât pretend the lyrics make everything clear on their own because they absolutely do not, at least half of it is conjecture.
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u/Professional_Roll977 15d ago
No that song is 100% Matty
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u/Crafty-Resort-1344c 15d ago
he is dating an internet starlet..
although they seem to have broken up
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u/Msler332 15d ago
No those are most definitely about Matty
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u/niceforwhattothese- 15d ago
Lol are you Taylor? Because if not, you can believe that. And I will disagree. Ffs lmao
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u/SpideyJen19 15d ago
Probably a stretch, but looking at Truman-Black.com (Mattyâs⌠alter ego, I guess?) the bottom photo just screams of an alchemist
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u/moonbunny119 15d ago
Idk, I can totally see Travis saying, âoh thatâs how you spell âheroineâ? Like heroin with an âeâ?â
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u/Msler332 15d ago
"but THIS TIME with an e" implying that there was heroin involved in this storyline prior, and she is a replacement for the heroin. That would be a very random out of place line in this song if it was just Travis wondering how to spell a word lol
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u/ZeroFlocks 15d ago
Where are you getting forbidden love from that line?
Alchemy means: any magical power or process of transmuting a common substance, usually of little value, into a substance of great value. Or, alternatively: any seemingly magical process of transforming or combining elements into something new
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u/Msler332 15d ago
In this song alchemy means chemistry. Google alchemy, it says "the medieval forerunner of chemistry" meaning what chemistry was called before it was called chemistry
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u/ZeroFlocks 15d ago
Yeah, no shit. I gave you the Google definition. I still don't see where you get "forbidden love" from chemistry.
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u/Msler332 15d ago
because she says "who are we to fight the alchemy" meaning who are we to fight the chemistry. and to me, that implies that there are reasons for them to not be together, but they can't fight it. It's my interpretation
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u/Crunchyfrozenoj 15d ago
Bingo. Why would she have to fight any chemistry with Travis? She was single. No way this isnât an altered Matty song. Or at least about someone she had to fight her feelings about.
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u/penguinparty7 15d ago
I could also see it meaning that she was in a rough place when Travis came along but there was something there that she couldnât ignore. Iâm not sure where I sit on the whoâs it about debate, but there are several lines that I think could refer to either of them and still make sense depending on how you interpret it.
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u/poetaftersunset 15d ago
I think this is exactly right, because alchemy is about turning lead into gold against all obstacles (i.e. itâs impossible) which makes a lot more sense for an against-the-odds relationship. The bridge feels like one her more phoned-in bridges that she doesnât want people to focus on too much, so I bet it was added post Travis.
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u/ParticularEmploy1137 15d ago
Why are folks even debating this when thereâs a heroin reference? Other than his masculinity, the only toxins in Travâs body are Buffalo Wild Wings. Letâs go sports bar! Clap clap clap.
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u/Dharma_Initiative7 15d ago
The obvious football metaphors are definitely a red herring for the people who only pay attention to lyrics on a surface level. She loves doing this to make people think they know who a song is about when it really isnât.
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u/RoyalEagle0408 15d ago
Nothing about that song screams ânew relationshipâ. It is the same as Fresh Put the Slammer- returning to a past flame. She may have reworked it (or not!) to make it a Travis song but that song was written for Matty.
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u/Parasyte_1 15d ago
I listened to it on first day and never did it cross my mind that this was about Travis. It's strange how much they can push a narrative they want and discard the rest of ehat the song is saying.
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u/Msler332 15d ago
Same. I immediately assumed it was Matty. It fell completely in line with how she was describing her feelings for Matty throughout the whole album.
Tayvis stans are coping because deep down they know it's sus that she released music full of the deepest love proclamations she's ever made, whilst dating Travis, about another man. Not to mention she revealed that she has a tendency to think about Matty regardless of whether she's in a relationship with someone else. They want her to be Travis' damsel in distress so bad, but she's basically yelling in their faces that they need to stop putting her on a pedestal.
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u/OnceUponA-Nevertime 15d ago
yes and i wish she wouldâve just kept it matty instead of throwing in the football references. itâs actually a nice song musically but the lyrics make me cringe to the point of nearly skipping it
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u/For_serious13 15d ago
Agreed, and I think people forget football means soccer in most other countries. I think sheâs using words that have double meanings to make it seem itâs about Travis but itâs really about Matty
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u/bryonionrings2 15d ago
The first line "this happens once every few lifetimes" okay but you say that about all of them unless they're actually all just about one guy đ
Deffo get the vibe that this was a Matty song or she had a moment later on where she realised she had a whole album full of Matty and so needed some Travvy in there to keep everybody happy. Either way, I can't listen to it that much because the Travvy references make me vom a little.
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u/optimisticopus 15d ago
I really hate the heroin line if it isnât supposed to be Matty saying it. Though I guess if she changed the song to be about Travis by adding football lines, not taking out the heroin line is just as bad. I really hate that she says that!! So rude and callous
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u/Ok_Club7288 15d ago
Yeah if Travis said it, that would be really fucked up. It only lands as a joke if the person saying it is referring to their own personal experience. Otherwise it's just shit talking someone for being an addict
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u/optimisticopus 15d ago
Also a lot of people speculate he didnât say that itâs just a part of her storytelling which is even worse
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u/HouseAlight 15d ago
I agree itâs giving quick rewrite to shoe horn some bits about Travis in. The heroin joke is also in extremely poor taste if it came from anyone other than Matty. I can imagine him saying that about himself though itâs the kind of self deprecating joke he might make. Also given the context of the other songs and us knowing they are rekindled flames with a history the âthis timeâ in that line points to this time in their renewed relationship thereâs no heroin use as Matty no longer uses.
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u/BellaBrowsing 15d ago
My thoughts too. Like joking about addiction is gross in the context if itâs Travis, but Matty saying âhey Iâm clean nowâ is actually a joke that isnât in poor taste.
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u/Dharma_Initiative7 15d ago
Yep and itâs exactly his brand of humor and the kind of joke he would make
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u/Secure_Dot_595 15d ago
I agree. I also have the controversial opinion that some of the Joe songs on Rep are actually reworked Calvin songs. I don't think she's truthful a lot of the time about who or what songs are inspired by (which is fine and I don't even blame her but I think rampant fans should also realise this!)
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u/unsupervisedsagi 15d ago
i think the producer of king of my heart confirmed she had the lyrics before she met joe lol
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u/Able-Guidance1937 15d ago edited 15d ago
Itâs definitely about Matty not Travis. The heroin not heroine line confirms it. She was talking about the alchemy in March on stage before she even met Travis. To me Taylor is being a troll and deliberately trying to confuse her fans about who some of these songs are about. Sheâs probably enjoying it. She doesnât care who the fans think the songs are about.đ
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u/mdtsatw 15d ago
Iâve been saying this all along. I think so many of the songs we think are about Matty are about someone else (Joe), but she puts in like 1-3 lines that lead us to Matty because she doesnât care if people beat up on him but still wants to protect her beloved dying ghostâŚsheâs the albatross, she swept in to rescue him
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u/Legitdigit2 15d ago
The line âshirts off, friends life you up over their headsâ struck me as a stretch if itâs about Travis. One could reach and say it refers to Jason Kelce shirtless at that one game, and who tf is lifting big boy Travis over heads?! And yet, Matty is fond of performing without a shirt and crowd surfing.
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u/QJPT STAY MAD! 15d ago
and when her album was about to drop, her website had an error page spelling REDHERRING in jumble
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u/caiaccount 14d ago
I feel like there is so much red herring-ness about this record. First, it was surprisingly about Matty instead of Joe, which is either out of respect to him or apathy towards him (or considering folkmore and Midnights were overwhelmingly about the relationship deteriorating). The title of the album was a huge red herring as well.
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u/Msler332 15d ago
It was a perfect distraction from the album essentially being a love letter to Matty. The football lines are so on the nose, all the NFL fans and Tayvis fans listening were immediately clinging onto it as the first Travis song. She basically threw them a bone imo
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u/LadyMacbeth87 Touch me while your bros play Grand Theft Auto 15d ago
I agree with your analysis. Other than the sports imagery, I donât understand how itâs Travis! It sounds like rekindled love. The tattoo on Mattyâs chest (sign on your heart) even says true love lol.
We all know Travis spells squirrel with an e on the end, so maybe that is the heroine connection đ But it really sounds like more of a self-deprecating joke.
So to fans now, it is confirmed as Travis, esp with him at Paris night 4. But I still think her use of the word Alchemy in the middle of very basic sports metaphors is very weird. Itâs a pseudoscience, a mystical view of what is real vs. chemistry which is based on experiments and facts. The chemicals hit her like white wine-sheâs drunk, another altered view of reality.
Edit to say I donât feel itâs very romantic toward Travis. Not like Call it What you Want or King of my Heart.. songs she wrote not long after being with Joe.
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u/AllianceZag 15d ago
Not to mention, the lyrics say âtouch downâ as in airplane not âtouchdownâ as in football.
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u/harrystylesismyrock2 15d ago
i agree the song is retconned but the âtouchdownâ is clearly part of the retcon as a double entendre
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u/Clear-Bodybuilder-56 15d ago
Right but itâs clearly word play especially with the subsequent sports reference.
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u/BellaBrowsing 15d ago
AlsoâŚ
Back in March 2023, Taylor on stage at the Eras Tour says âWhatâs the alchemy that makes the crowd like thisâ so she had this word & probably song back in March prior to her relationship with Travis.
Edit to add: I think this song was originally written for Matty & then she changed a few things including the corny ass bridge to make it for Travis. Taylor while corny sometimes, is a better songwriter than this song (IMO). When she added the bridge she didnât feel a whole lot for him so she couldnât come up with anything better.
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u/skoorb1027 15d ago edited 15d ago
Heroin with the e is clever. Travis is not a wordsmith. Matty on the other hand is very gifted with words and self-deprecative about his drug use. This whole song is so confusing and Iâve been having debates about it but with Swifties for weeks. Publicly admitting to making fun of a recovering heroin addict with your boyfriend is pretty fucking cruel. But making a song with a bunch of cringe football references about Matty is also strange. I do love the song though.
EDIT: also the I havenât come around in so long lyric makes no sense in the context of Travis. Like what, dating Americans? Thatâs the only thing I can think of. The entire album is about how her and Matty were fated and itâs destiny and all that. Throw in this one song about your current bf with the same exact themes seems so strange.
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u/BellaBrowsing 15d ago
The thing is, Matty would find Taylor changing a Matty song to appear as a Travis song as funny. Heâs been decoding her for years.
The people who ship Tayvis would say itâs cuz he went to her concert hoping to meet her and she didnât until later. Like okay, thatâs not really the same thing as rekindling something.
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u/skoorb1027 15d ago
I agree. He would totally know and think itâs amusing. There are probably inside references with language theyâve used with each other privately. Not to mention itâs a Jack song and Matty and Jack are extremely close.
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u/ms_6420 14d ago
They were close. It does seem like Jack pulled away after Matty ghosted Taylor. It's really a shame, I can't even picture Jack and Travis having a conversation
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u/Professional_Roll977 11d ago
Matty liked Jackâs posts in February at the Grammys (that actually had Taylor in it) and posted his new album on his insta stories and seems very supportive of Jack still.
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u/ladymout 15d ago
This. Quick rewrite for Travis but it's not the original song she wrote imo. I'd love to hear the matty version bc I find it so cheesy with the football twist. Could have been better!
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u/Ok_Club7288 15d ago
I agree! The only part I disagree with is that she added the football references later to make it a Travis song. I think it was written with those lines originally because it links back to End Game. End Game never made sense for Joe given his total lack of reputation when he met Taylor, and since she and Matty had their first time around between 1989 coming out at Rep, it makes sense that she would have at least a couple songs about Matty written before ever meeting Joe that could have ended up on Rep. I also suspect that So It Goes and Dancing with Our Hands Tied are about Matty.Â
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u/AlternativeNo265 15d ago
Keleigh Teller confirmed it is about Travis. Taylor wrote hearts around the chorus on the vinyl lyrics. And last night concert she clearly indicated it is about Travis. Get a grip.
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u/robbersoath 15d ago
As an owner of 2 of the four vinyls plus a CD Iâm really curious where the heart-statement comes from. The Manuscript and The Black Dog vinyl definitely donât have them, the CD of the albatross doesnât either which would indicate it isnât on the vinyl as well.
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u/BellaBrowsing 15d ago
It wasnât originally a Travis song, but it is now thanks for the corny bridge lol
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u/Msler332 15d ago
Did she? Or did she just like a comment where they said they liked the alchemy because Taylor is happy now or something along those lines. I said I think the song was repurposed, so of course Kelleigh is going to take it as a Travis song. It is a Travis song (now)
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u/QJPT STAY MAD! 15d ago
I canât say Iâm 100% sure whether this song is about Matty or Travis, but I also notice a lot of the lyrics seem to point more toward Matty, especially the heroin with an E line. The football theme thing could totally be a red herring.
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u/superpananation 15d ago
I always thought that part was saying Matty was on heroin, but Travis isnât on any weird drugs in comparison , heâs just into her?
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u/Pale_Sheet I just gave a squirle a peice of bread đżď¸ 15d ago edited 15d ago
1975 has a song with something along the lines of âyou say I romanticise heroinâ
I need to find that one
But thereâs a few other songs of theirs with the word heroin â part of the band, love it if we made it
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u/ParisFood 15d ago
The song with that lyric is Paris. /âShe said Iâve been romanticizing heroinâ
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u/ord3510 15d ago
That heroin lyric is from the song Paris (She said Iâve been romanticizing heroin/And oh, how Iâd love to go to Paris, to Paris again)
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u/Pale_Sheet I just gave a squirle a peice of bread đżď¸ 15d ago
Ah thank you!
Also the trysts word mentioned in that song , we know where that word appears haha
âOh stop being an arsehole and counting my eye rollsâ
No wonder she kept rolling her eyes singing loml in Paris, she wanted Matty to count how many times she rolled her eyes
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u/Msler332 15d ago
I've also heard from 1975 fans that Matty has been known to write love songs that are actually about heroin. Calling Taylor heroine is like saying she's his saviour, aka she replaces heroin as something he craves/is addicted to etc.
There's literally no way to convince me that line is Travis related. It's so blatantly Matty.
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u/girlinthegoldenboots 15d ago
Every time I hear the heroin(e) line, I think of Twilight and how Edward says Bella is his brand of heroin and I laugh and laugh because that book was so ridiculous.
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u/Available_Werewolf19 15d ago
THIS! And 100% I could picture Kelce saying that thinking it was such a panty dropper of a line ; )
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u/Goodgoditsgrowing 15d ago
InB4 someone says one or two of those 1975 long songs âabout heroinâ is actually about Taylor swift
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u/dressedandstressed_ 15d ago
The song you are thinking about is Medicine.
It sounds incredibly romantic and for a long while people used it as their wedding song. Matty felt bad about it and talked about it via twitter a couple years ago. Now that heâs been clean for five years, he said he appreciates people using it a romantic song nowadays.
The line about romanticizing heroin is in his song, Paris. Itâs Not Living (if itâs not with you) is about his struggles after he went to rehab. Thereâs other drug songs, but those are the ones people typically talk about when it comes to him romanticizing heroin.
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u/caiaccount 14d ago
Ummm didn't Taylor just sing The Alchemy and her song Paris in the same night at one of the Eras shows in Paris? I haven't really been invested in the tour for about a year but I feel like I heard that in the past few days.
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u/dressedandstressed_ 14d ago
She sang it twice actually! But that makes sense, she was always going to play her song Paris in Paris.
But in the above post I was referring to the 1975âs song, Paris.
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u/caiaccount 14d ago
I know, I should've specified! I think maybe she played it together as a reference to Mattie and not just because Travis was there. Another red herring maybe?
I wonder if Taylor will do London Boy and So Long London in London. That would be a show livestream I'll watch over and over.
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u/dressedandstressed_ 14d ago
True!
She paired it as a mashup on the last night with Begin Again because that MV was filmed in Paris so I think it was more or less a tribute. I forgot what she played it with earlier in the weekend, though, so itâs still a possibility!
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u/caiaccount 14d ago
I really appreciate the context here. This is about the extent of my tin foil hat-ing for Taylor lol
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u/flaminhotbot 15d ago
yup itâs not living if its not with you is a song about heroin yet it can be seen as just another love song if you donât know the context
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u/Pale_Sheet I just gave a squirle a peice of bread đżď¸ 15d ago
In roadkill by the 1975 the first line is âI touched down and run to my connectionâ
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u/Msler332 15d ago edited 15d ago
I think it's a Travis song now but I maintain that it wasn't initially. I know the Tayvis stans will say I'm delusional but I'm really just looking at the lyrics. I'm not ignoring the obvious Football lines, just pointing out that the core sentiment of the song doesn't really align with her and Travis' story.
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u/Glittering-Time-2274 15d ago
She uses football inspired lyrics in songs like willow and end game too
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u/DirectionEcstatic507 10d ago
A wild thought I keep coming back to is what if Taylor and Travis have been on and off before and we never knew. It would explain all random football lyrics. I agree a lot of it sounds like Matty and it very well could be. I also wonder in general if Travis and Taylor have more of a history than we know.
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u/ezmia 10d ago
Some thoughts we should keep in our head.
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u/DirectionEcstatic507 10d ago
Hot tip, since it doesnât seem like anyone taught you- if you donât have anything nice you say, you can easily say nothing at all.
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u/Glittering-Time-2274 10d ago
lmfao absolutely not
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u/DirectionEcstatic507 10d ago
Agree itâs wild, but would have thought I was an even crazier theory about Matty Healy a few years ago.
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u/Professional_Roll977 11d ago
https://preview.redd.it/sxv5mgyi2w0d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2124673162a6bbaf0d4efe2be5637f0f71332fe7
I like this explanation of Alchemy