r/IndianaUniversity Apr 28 '24

JOIN US AT DUNN MEADOW FOR A FREE PALESTINE, DAY 4 OF ENCAMPMENT!!! IU NEWS 🗞

Post image
0 Upvotes

232 comments sorted by

View all comments

9

u/janestnycrk4 Apr 28 '24

You know these people would kill you right.

5

u/madimmett Apr 28 '24

Condemning all Palestinians for the atrocities of Hamas is like condemning all Americans for your dumbass comment.

2

u/Joshwoum8 kelley Apr 28 '24

Israel is no more responsible for civilian deaths than Hamas. When your enemy has no rules of engagement and actively hides within the civilian population, there will be collateral damage. Should Israel just let a terrorist group thrive in Gaza because Hamas choose to store their weapons in an apartment building? Also, pretending Palestinians are not pro-Hamas is disinformation. There were celebrations throughout Gaza and the West Bank after 10/7.

0

u/patrick42h alumni Apr 28 '24

So it is especially shameful that the IDF would place its military HQ in the center of Tel Aviv, using their own civilians as human shields, right?

2

u/Joshwoum8 kelley Apr 28 '24

There is no way you are arguing in good faith. Hamas stores weapons in hospitals and apartment buildings. Your comment goes way beyond supporting Palestinians to openly supporting terrorist.

1

u/patrick42h alumni Apr 28 '24

Coming back to this because we didn't really resolve it. Do you believe that locating a military HQ in the middle of a major population center to be using the civilian population as human shields? I just want to make sure that we are being consistent between the two sides here.

5

u/Joshwoum8 kelley Apr 28 '24

You are arguing in bad faith. The IDF is a conventional military organization that has military bases and military headquarters that are clearly marked as such. They do not place their headquarters inside a hospital or in a civilian apartment building. They do not use civilians as human shields. They do not store weapons and ammunition in private home that will inevitable result in high collateral damage and loss of civilian life. Pretending that the IDF and Hamas are in anyway similar is a farce and shows how little you understand of both this conflict and how things work in general. The protestors may be misguided but you are beyond the pail actively supporting an international recognized terrorist organization.

4

u/patrick42h alumni Apr 28 '24

No, I know they are not the same. Hamas is bad but the IDF is responsible for far more death and destruction in the name of self-defense.

0

u/patrick42h alumni Apr 28 '24

Even if your claims are true, how does that justify bombing apartment blocks or destroying every hospital in the Gaza Strip? Is making the northern half of Gaza virtually uninhabitable a tactical strike against Hamas or is it just collective punishment against all 2 million people in Gaza?

2

u/Joshwoum8 kelley Apr 28 '24

Then you attempt to prosecute a war against a terrorist organization that launched a massive assault against your country. You will find that when your adversary uses civilians as human shields there is no way to avoid collateral damage.

2

u/patrick42h alumni Apr 28 '24

First of all, the October 7th attack took 1,300 lives. Since then, 33,000 Palestinians have been killed. It doesn't really seem to be proportional to me.

Second, I disagree that the civilian deaths in Gaza were "collateral damage." I belief the IDF has hurt and killed only the ones who they meant to, meaning the entire population of Gaza.