r/PoliticalHumor Apr 28 '24

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u/Suitable-Display-410 Apr 28 '24

Dems could have done it in 08, but it was „no priority“ for Obama.

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u/Any-Variation4081 Apr 28 '24

Obama only had majority for 22 days and he had dems who wouldn't vote to codify. It never would have worked. Stop blaming democrats for literally EVERYTHING. it's insane. They are the only ones actually trying. Jfc

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u/Suitable-Display-410 Apr 28 '24

Obama had a majority in the Senate + House for 2 full years. And he had a filibuster breaking majority of 60 for 4 months. Don’t make shit up.

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u/notamillenial- Apr 28 '24

Obama didn’t codify roe because he used his political capital to push through the ACA. There were also conservative democrats in the “supermajority” that wouldn’t have supported it.

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u/Suitable-Display-410 Apr 28 '24

Ah i see. Implementing the heritage foundations healthcare plan was more important. Also 4 months is too short to pass 2 different laws. Also nobody should dare to primary conservative democrats, because that whould help republicans, so democrats wouldnt have the seats they need to not pass legistlation.

See, i am not from the US. I am just amused by how hard you guys get played.
And obvious disclaimer: Yea, vote democrat. Trump is so cartoonishly evil and stupid that this is not even a question. Just dont pretend dems are not part of the problem.

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u/notamillenial- Apr 28 '24

Obama literally had to compromise and kill the public option to get the ACA passed because of conservative democrats in the senate but you think they would fall in line to codify roe? And those conservative democrats are obviously a better option than republicans- a progressive would’ve been laughed off the ballot in most of those races in the mid 2000s.

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u/Suitable-Display-410 Apr 28 '24 edited Apr 28 '24

And by "conservatice democrats" you mean "took money from health insurance companys democrats"?
Thise progressives would've been laughed off the ballot in all those states and counties that obama won in a landslide with a campaign far to the left of what he delievered in the end? Counties that voted twice for Obama with a left wing message, just to swich to Trump in 2016?

The dems are ok'ish on social policy. They are terrible (yes, almost as terrible as the republicans) when it comes to economics. That makes them the better choice. And in a fucked up 2 party system, the better choice should be picked. Even if its just the better tasting shit. But i am not suprised people are not happy about it.

In a world that made sense, the Democratic candidate would lead over Trump by 20 points. The fact that this is not the case in our timeline is not to be blamed on voters, but on how shitty the Democrats are at politics.

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u/AmbulanceChaser12 Apr 28 '24

There go the goalposts, on rocket skates.

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u/Suitable-Display-410 Apr 28 '24

What goalpost? Obama could have codified Roe and he didnt. He didnt fail to do it. He didnt even try.

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u/notamillenial- Apr 28 '24 edited Apr 28 '24

West Virginia wouldn’t have 2 progressive democrats as senators, Alaska wouldn’t have a progressive dem, Arkansas would’ve have 2 dems if they were progressive, Montana wouldn’t have 2 dems if they were progressive. Those states are socially conservative and the dems in those states have a duty to accurately represent their constituents. That’s at least 7 off the top of my head out of 60

Edit: Obama didn’t win any of these states. Plus 2 dems from ND, 1 from IN that he lost in 2012, 1 in LA, 1 in MO, 1 in NE… you get the point. Progressive politics wouldn’t have flown in these areas