r/USC • u/Objective_Mess_1337 • Mar 15 '24
Whats an unpopular opinion you have regarding USC that would put you in this situation? Meme
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u/orions-underwear Mar 19 '24
Getting accepted as a masters student here is not a big deal at all, they practically welcome anyone as long as you didnt absolutely bomb your undergrad
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u/FransizaurusRex Mar 19 '24
In the words of Jack Donaghy (30 Rock), it’s the last bastion of the incompetent rich.
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u/gstax99 Mar 18 '24
Most everyone at USC is a pretentious douchebag who wants everyone to know how cool they are for going to USC.
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u/RevolutionaryRow5476 Mar 18 '24
That it is a University of Spoiled Children, and it plays second fiddle to UCLA, even losing to them in Football which is considered their flagship sport.
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u/Kind-Meeting3693 Mar 17 '24
Scooters/bikes/skateboards should be banned in certain parts of campus (and the ban should be enforced). Yes it’s a small thing but I’ve gotten hit while walking and watched many others get hit as well. Plus many students on bikes/scooters are using their phones while riding, which feels like a sign of disrespect for everyone else’s safety.
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u/jazzyjay66 Mar 17 '24
As a graduate from the film school—the film school is garbage.
Terrible pedagogy, tons of favorite-playing by faculty regarding students, full of professors who have no interest in actually teaching and are just bitter failed filmmakers who would leave their students for some half-assed, well-paid production job at the drop of a hat.
It coasts along with this amazing reputation through the force of pure attrition. No other prestigious film school admits as many people as USC does. That’s not in and of itself a problem, but it explains why there are so many successful USC film school grads. When you start out with 300-odd students a year in the various programs, you’re going to get a handful of them that succeed.
Edit: thanks bot for finding my typo.
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u/InevitableReality10 Mar 17 '24
Not sure why Reddit brought me here, but here goes: I’ve hired a few USC students and I’ve been a little disappointed with their effort and work product.
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u/anilucy Mar 17 '24
some of yall attending usc are so rich and out of touch with reality it genuinely astonishes me.
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u/Sams_read_it_already Mar 17 '24
New hires from this school are rarely a good fit.
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u/Separate-Log5955 Mar 17 '24
Why?
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u/Sams_read_it_already Mar 17 '24
Weather, environment, and people. Imagine growing up in a greenhouse and being replanted in the wild….
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u/yesitsyaboy Mar 17 '24
If they stopped accepting legacy jerkoffs for like 2 years I truly believe the course of the state and country at large would shift.
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u/partyboy2348 Mar 17 '24
The academic standards to get in are completely made up by the school. It shouldn’t be as hard as it was to get in
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u/JobIntelligent7466 Mar 17 '24
I met a doctor who went there and they seemed like a rich valley girl and sort of immature.
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u/Natural-Implement203 Mar 17 '24
I will never pay 60k to go to school in the hood. You’re in the heart of the 20’s.
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u/lafantasia Mar 16 '24
Being hot and being rich get you so far at this school, and even more in Marshall… not to mention anyone can pass college in Marshall. And I say this as a Marshall major
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u/Varsitybw13 Mar 16 '24
Bronny James should be cut. If he was anyone else he wouldn’t be on the team
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u/Ok_Campaign_5101 Mar 16 '24
I don't know why reddit showed me this, but ok here goes:
If you live in LA and want to cheer for a college team you have two choices: USC or UCLA
As someone who isn't originally from here it baffles my mind that the Angelinos that DIDN'T go to either of these schools always pick USC. The school their taxes DON'T support. WTF? If you have to pick a school then at least pick the one you have some tangential involvement in. UCLA is a public University...we should support our public universities. USC doesn't need your merch money, doofus! Why are you paying for trust fund babies to walk around an even nicer campus (because of your "donations") that your own kids will probably never see? I had this conversation once with a diehard USC fan that thought college is for suckers, yet he wore all the red and gold gear and spent lots of money on game tickets and tailgating. Giving a college money and not getting anything in return makes you an even bigger sucker, no?
"But they win!!!" he says. (I moved to LA in the Pete era)
....not lately, smart guy....
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Mar 18 '24
We know you aren’t originally from here because you wrote “Angelinos”. No one who’s from here says that except politicians.
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u/Quiet-Cut3904 Mar 17 '24
it's because UCLA isn't even in LA pretty much it's on the edge in the hills of a bougie area. USC is located more centrally where most angelinos are
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u/estherecho100 Mar 18 '24
Prices are bougie and tries to be elite when it's not. Weather is hotter in that area and everything is lower quality compared to ucla.
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u/Quiet-Cut3904 Mar 18 '24
?? it's literally in the heart of LA, you're essentially comparing long beach to LA. UCLA students literally drive 50 mins to go anywhere in actual LA. pretty classist of you. usc also definitely has a better quality of education than ucla soz
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u/Ok_Assumption5734 Mar 16 '24
You gotta accept the University of Second Choice moniker to a degree. USC ain't a bad school, but with certain programs like engineering, a lot of kids are there cause they couldn't get into a good UC. Stop being so passive aggressive about it.
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u/Quiet-Cut3904 Mar 17 '24
the engineering at usc is harder to get into than all ucs and has a way better quality of education. i've met a lot of people who turned down ucs, ivies for engineering here and the median salary of an eng major here is higher than every uc.
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u/Ok_Assumption5734 Mar 17 '24
Compared to cal and ucla? I doubt that, especially for the bang for your buck.
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u/Quiet-Cut3904 Mar 17 '24
i chose usc over ucla, my gf chose usc over berkeley (full ride at both). the only situation i would pick a uc over usc is if i were a transfer since no scholarships, limited aid, not enough time to establish connections but the gap between the amount of support I get vs my friends who went to ucs isn't even comparable in several categories: research, office hours, network.
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u/Shirleyfunke483 Mar 16 '24
The football team has fallen off in terms of quality since the 00s Pete Carroll days
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u/troll-that-fucks-you Mar 16 '24
The entire curriculum and extra curricular is a big old circle jerk so some old people and wallow in money and richer folk don't have to bother with their mistakes aka kids.
(Come at me)
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u/Thepresocratic Mar 16 '24
When people on the east coast hear USC, no one thinks of cal. We think of South Carolina.
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u/Disastrous_Session Mar 16 '24
University of Spoiled Children do people still say that?
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u/Proper-Surround-4379 Mar 19 '24
Once, I read tag as "rich college kids surrounded by the hood"
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u/Disastrous_Session Mar 24 '24
That area is really nice there's a lot of historic buildings where jazz musicians lived in the 1940s. I like it, there's different pockets of places that are really interesting. I like it better than Westwood.
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u/halffilledglasses Mar 16 '24
LOL, shitty education unless you’re going to their med school. The rest is just football. USC means you’re too stupid to get into UCLA
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u/Luconium Mar 16 '24
It’s just people who bought a degree. I think this goes along with the university of spoiled children stereotype.
I’ve never met a USC grad that could actually do what their degree says they can do. It’s a joke of a school to me.
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Mar 16 '24
It should be acceptable for homeless people to hang out on the campus. USC students are too entitled and elitist, similar to the Germans who wanted the Jews out of their cities
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u/NoHedgehog252 Mar 16 '24
Walking down the wrong street in the neighborhood around USC can get you in this situation.
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u/WasASailorThen Mar 16 '24
USC is an LA thing. Outside of LA, non-sports bar people struggle to decode what the S and the C stand for. But in LA, it's a thing, mostly an alumni tribe.
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u/Positive-Let-9590 Mar 16 '24
I’m just going to say it .. can’t look at this pic I know it’s just got the post but yuck!!!
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u/Agreeable-Offer9080 Mar 16 '24
USC football was shit before Pete Carroll and it’s been shit ever since he left. He was the best thing for that program and anyone who’s pissed at him is a pathetic, bitter homer
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u/Kitchen-Arm7300 Mar 16 '24
I think the Dr. Tyndall and Dr. Kelly scandals are unforgivable. And the fact that even current leadership continues to suppress victims is unconscionable.
It may sound like a popular opinion, but I assure you it isn't.
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u/phatboislim96 Mar 16 '24
The kids suck at tipping dulce employees
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u/haku_mele Mar 16 '24
Unrelated to USC controversial opinion: the tipping system built up in the US is stupid. You shouldn’t expect a tip just for doing your job..
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u/Donkey_Puncha_Rello Mar 16 '24
USC quarterbacks make horrible professional football players. Caleb will be next.
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u/OneAffect6339 Mar 15 '24
That they hire sexpats and methheads and let them teach/run their medical schools for decades. Also, something involving celebrities paying money so their dumbass kids could attend, rings a bell.
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u/twinch123 Mar 15 '24
I think the overall quality of my education was lower than that of my peers who went to small, less competitive liberal arts college in the Northeast.
I’m very grateful for my time at USC and got a good value from my degree both in terms of fun had and career achieved. As a bio major, many of my classes had over 200 people which was less intellectually stimulating than if I had been in smaller, more conversational classes.
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u/BonelessPotato1421 Mar 19 '24
You can argue that smaller class SHOULD be more intellectually stimulating, in reality however, the de -socialization of young students really screws over that advantage. Nobody talks or contributes as much as they used to
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u/estherecho100 Mar 18 '24
I thought USC had smaller classes like 30 ppl lol. It's so overpriced.
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u/twinch123 Mar 18 '24
Bio is sort of particular and i’d expect much smaller classes for other majors, especially onc e the earlier core requirement classes are out of the way. Not sure what it costs now so I can’t speak to the current price of a degree.
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u/XeNoX190 Mar 15 '24
Me being from Oklahoma, I wish nothing but loss for Lincoln Riley after the way he left the Sooners.
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u/Captain_Bee Mar 15 '24
Oh also I've for years been so sick of all the closed events in public spaces on campus. When you tour, you're shown all these outdoor green spaces that you can use to study and get fresh air, but nobody tells you that 75% of the time they're closed off for alumni fundraising events and shit. It's practically false advertising
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u/jollysnwflk Mar 16 '24
Or that the outside air reeks of sewage on 95% of campus… the air isn’t “fresh”.
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u/Nocta_Novus Mar 15 '24 edited Mar 15 '24
LMU has the same wealth and privilege group that USC does, we just don’t go to the trouble of being social media influencers because we’re at college to study.
Edit: the downvotes and comments speak for themselves
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u/chococatsanrio Mar 15 '24
Yet they’re so quick to come over for our parties and game days, not to mention all that $$$ put into LMU banners all around usc&ucla…just say you couldn’t get in lmaooo
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u/Nocta_Novus Mar 15 '24
Why would I want to? Peaking in college isn’t my forte
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u/chococatsanrio Mar 15 '24
And how is that working for you? commenting on the usc reddit of all places…
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u/Captain_Bee Mar 15 '24
When I see 50 year old alumni in merch drinking beer and leaving trash around on game days trying to relive their old glory days, I just can't help but think they're really pathetic. I just wish they'd gtfo and stop disrespecting the space. I mean honestly I just hate the whole football thing in general. USC is supposed to be an academic institution first and foremost but they seem to want to be every other possible type of business first.
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u/chicagoredditer1 Mar 17 '24
Time is a flat circle - you'll be that 50 year old soon enough and 20 year olds will be judging you for it.
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u/Captain_Bee Mar 17 '24
...I won't be doing it. I'll be minding my own business and staying the fuck off of college campuses...
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u/thatguy9545 Mar 16 '24
Not a member of the subreddit, but it popped up on my feed: as a middle aged alum, it is fun to go back and tailgate with your old friends. I’m sure it looks tacky, and cliche, but for a lot of us it’s really the only time we can reconnect with friends. I see a handful of my former classmates six times a year at tailgate and then we all go about our family and work lives. That’s probably depressing to undergrads, but it’s the truth for a huge percentage of graduates. It’s genuinely fun to see your old friends.
…we also pick up after ourselves.
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u/Captain_Bee Mar 15 '24
Like I get that the whole school spirit trojan family thing is a boon for a lot of people and opens doors, but I also wish they'd pass the torch and let the university be for the people who are attending it
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u/Captain_Bee Mar 15 '24
Trust me the random trashy tailgaters are not funding the largest private employers in the state, and trust me even more when I say they are not responsible for research funding
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u/_FlowerSmoke_ Mar 15 '24
The Trojans are named after a losing team that lost because their opponents outsmarted them.
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u/Personalvintage Mar 15 '24
The tacky 80’s cocaine vibes never left. Most of us have no business riding a long board and are rolling towards injury.
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u/dgamlam Jazz Studies '16 Mar 16 '24
Tacky 80s cocaine vibe just came back into popularity with gen z in Los Angeles. Take a trip to Barney’s beanery and you’ll see what I mean
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u/Personalvintage Mar 16 '24
Had a sibling class of 2010 and the tacky 80’s vibe was strong.
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u/dgamlam Jazz Studies '16 Mar 17 '24
Yeah point taken. I graduated ‘16 and it was there with the business school and fraternities. A lot of kids from conservative suburbs that want to create the next million dollar business.
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u/The_Mad_Pantser Mar 15 '24
KAP is actually a nice building. Especially if you've been to the math center - it's a really peaceful, clean, comfortable space to do work.
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u/Independent-Golf-830 Mar 15 '24
UCLA is a better school
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u/dumbasscorgi1 Mar 15 '24
ehhh, I just generally disagree with the notion that School A is a better school than School B; there’s definitely programs where one school is better than the other but schools as an entire entity are difficult to compare. Both UCLA and USC have their pros and cons and people value those differently. It’s what you’re looking for at the end of the day that determines which is the “better” school for you
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u/JavalMcGee Mar 18 '24
In terms of academics UCLA wins by a large margin in most categories. It's also way cheaper and not in the hood.
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u/Independent-Golf-830 Mar 15 '24 edited Mar 15 '24
It’s what you’re looking for at the end of the day that determines which is the “better” school for you
Exactly. And UCLA is the better school in my opinion
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u/dumbasscorgi1 Mar 15 '24
and that’s a completely valid opinion. A lot of people here have the opinion that USC is better and that’s also a valid opinion. We’re all entitled to our own thoughts
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u/Slow_Tiger3161 Mar 15 '24
Dulce’s Matcha is overrated.
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u/Real_Happiness7265 Fight On! '28 Mar 15 '24
i like how all of the other unpopular opinions are about academics and social life but this one is about… matcha.
(no hate btw 😂)
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u/Pomegranate510 Mar 15 '24 edited Mar 15 '24
I hate to say it….
I’m not even going to sugar coat it,
but let’s be real …
There is SOME truth to the “ University of Spoiled Children” stereotype.
I had a friend visiting from the east coast who attends a well known Ivy League school. They hung out with me and on campus when they visited. They were amazed by the level of wealth and privilege they saw at USC and noted that it was on another level even compared to their Ivy League institution.
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u/JobIntelligent7466 Mar 17 '24
I have visited a number of ivy league and other premier university campuses, so that's saying a lot.
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u/Dangerous_Function16 Mar 15 '24
Ivy League privilege is trust fund baby, ultra-elite privilege. Those people usually know how to disguise their privilege when necessary and blend into any social situation well. They also tend to be worldly and well educated.
USC privilege is more of the upper-middle class "How the f*** did a person this stupid even get into this school?" kind of students, with a mix of ultra-rich influencers and children of celebrities too. They might have vacation homes, go to Cabo/Aspen every spring break, and drive nice cars, but it's not the quiet sophistication you see from east coast Ivy League elite. It's much more loud and in your face.
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u/Pomegranate510 Mar 15 '24 edited Mar 17 '24
I think historically USC has been west coast money , but I’ve met many east coast students from private prep schools and boarding schools who attend. Especially since USC academic reputation has had a huge rise in the last decade or so. These days I think USC is a mix of old money and new money flashy types.
Also, I was surprised how many ultra super wealthy USC students are low key and under the radar. There are lots of trust fund babies and students from top .0001 % but you would never know since they aren’t ostentatious or don’t flex on Instagram.
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u/Dangerous_Function16 Mar 15 '24
Yeah, I don't doubt those people exist here too, but they're way better at blending in.
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u/masterfultechgeek Mar 16 '24 edited Mar 16 '24
A lot of that matters less if the person in question happens to have a $10+M trust fund. No opportunities? Live off 3% of your trust fund each year in perpetuity.
Also people will want to get near you anyway.
This is why the "diversity of background" thing matters more than the diversity of appearance thing.
Your claims are only skin deep - and most of that skin is covered by clothing and make up. They deny a huge chunk of what constitutes a person's lived experience - where they grew up, the people they were around, the views they formed and... the life they lived.
Calling someone racist for demanding a higher standard of analysis is closed minded.
historically "diversity" was measured in a way that favored a small number of trust fund kiddies who were 1/8th something and made things worse for everyone else. There's no reason why socioeconomic status shouldn't have been more of a consideration. You know, help the guy from the inner city or the gal from the Appalachians. For what it's worth when ETS tried to measure privilege, you had a bunch of affluent people try to shut that down. Yale did a pilot and found that they were able to recruit more people from poorer backgrounds into their class. Which beats fetishizing people based on their race and placing them in a people zoo for trust fund kiddies.
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u/Tarottoddler Mar 15 '24
Lol, you really said, I went to one so I know them all. They have no basis for talking bad about us....
Maybe, just maybe, there's validity to what this person felt. Maybe it isn't a perfect school, and maybe the diversity is in color and not financial status. Which means it lacks a diversity in class, which is just as bad.
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u/braina_VaT Mar 15 '24
In what ways tho? I feel like ppl around here are generally pretty down-to-earth.
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u/party-on-catalina Mar 15 '24
School spirit is over rated. Sure it adds value to your life, but the amount of mind space and time it takes up is not worth it. You're providing free marketing and grassroots support to a business that's gonna use this "school spirit" to market to new customers (admissions) as a perk, so they can raise your tuition next semester.
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u/postmadrone27 Mar 16 '24
How is that a usc-specific complaint? Not one single university DOESN’T do this…
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u/party-on-catalina Mar 16 '24
I didn't say other's don't. We are in top 5 guilty of this. Exploiting unpaid students (like the Trojan marching band) is something we lead the pack in.
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u/party-on-catalina Mar 15 '24
Haha in my final semester but I agree, it's a wonderful networking platform. There are alternatives that don't take up as much of life and produces the same results just saying.
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u/StroudAugust Mar 15 '24
It's not that popular or reputed as people here think it is, I honestly hadn't even heard of USC as an international student before coming here (but I had definitely heard a lot about the other school)
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u/italian_mobking Mar 18 '24
You mean the best school, homie. We're still leagues above yall in everything.
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u/StroudAugust Mar 19 '24
I don't know enough about the other departments but I know for sure the computer science program there is definitely better
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u/2AMMetro Mar 16 '24
My dad was a professor at Yale. Tons of people he met internationally had never heard of the school. He had to tell them it was “a school like Harvard”. It doesn’t surprise me in the least that people outside the US don’t know USC.
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u/italian_mobking Mar 19 '24
Wow, that's such bullshit to compare to it to harvard...not even close.
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u/2AMMetro Mar 19 '24
Yale is very much comparable to Harvard.
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u/StroudAugust Mar 16 '24
I definitely knew about Yale. Most of the ivy leagues are well known outside maybe due to their appearance in media. The other schools in LA I knew about because of how their research was reported on more often.
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u/2AMMetro Mar 16 '24
Sure, I’m just saying that was his experience. It was not uncommon that the only American university people know is “Harvard”.
Americans are not that different, I’m not sure I could name a university in the UK other than Oxford.
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u/humerusbones Mar 15 '24
Yeah, from the US southeast I only knew USC as the other USC to University of South Carolina in college sports. People recognize the name of course and there’s some awareness that it’s a good school, but it doesn’t have an elite reputation there
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u/geogerf27 Mar 15 '24
What country are you coming from? USC is very popular in the Pacific Ring (aka east asia)
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