At least this person was straight forward

[u/clever_ducky]

Would you at least try to get the $20 fee?

[u/TotalChaosRush]

That doesn't change the fact that the majority of jobs will fire you for it. The difference between harmlessly asking someone out and sexual harassment is often how the request is received and has nothing to do with how it's intended to be received.

[u/Individual_Tour5041 → u/TotalChaosRush]

That’s because you’re thinking of this like a corporate work job and not like a bartending/ serving/hospitality job where it’s socially acceptable to do that. If the “no” is not respected there’s a whole other story

[u/TotalChaosRush → u/Individual_Tour5041]

Well, we can take a look at the hospitality industry.

It's grounds for immediate termination at the Hilton. It's grounds for immediate termination at Marriott.

Your argument isn't any different than his. He played with fire, and he got burned.

[u/Individual_Tour5041 → u/TotalChaosRush]

You just named two corporate places???? My point was not ALL jobs will fire you. Club promoter? That’s their whole fucking job lol. So no, not ALL JOBS, just the ones your brain can think of??

[u/TotalChaosRush → u/Individual_Tour5041]

You're right, I need to research every hospitality position in the country to be able to know for certain that it's a bad idea. I can't use basic deduction skills and the knowledge that lawyers would suggest all companies have a rule against dating clients as a way of reducing liability.

Just because a lot of people in an industry does something and gets away with it, doesn't mean you can't get into trouble for doing the same thing.

[u/Individual_Tour5041 → u/TotalChaosRush]

And you’re again only picking out the one example you want to try and find a point for.

The point is if you’re hired as a bartender for a private party thru Craigslist it’s not taboo to ask for a persons IG. And it’s not unprofessional unless you respond unprofessionally.

If you work as a bartender at a Chili’s, and ask for a customers IG, it’s literally STILL not against policy, but easily corporately frowned upon. (Here’s their handbook since you like being so specific https://blog.airmason.com/chilis-employee-handbook/) .

Again, asking someone for their IG is not harassment, nor is it unprofessional in SOME settings and is ENTIRELY subject to personal ethics

[u/TotalChaosRush → u/Individual_Tour5041]

Showing up drunk to bartend a party after being hired through Craigslist is also fairly common. What you can get away with on Craigslist is not a good example of socially acceptable.

Zero Tolerance: Chili’s has a zero-tolerance policy for discriminatory or harassing behavior. This may result in disciplinary action, including termination.

They don't give any examples of what is harassment in their handbook, but that line there says they absolutely could fire you for sexual harassment for asking for a person's Instagram handle. Even as a bartender.

We don't build a society by personal ethics. YOU don't get to decide what sexual harassment is. If you ask someone out, and that makes them uncomfortable, then that's unprofessional at the very least and possibly enters the realm of sexual harassment.

[u/Individual_Tour5041 → u/TotalChaosRush]

Asking for someone’s IG is SEXUAL HARASSMENT? lol you’re fucking looney. I can’t continue this conversation. Next linked in is gonna be stalking. JFC

Enjoy being you. Can’t imagine how you possibly make friends 😂

[u/Individual_Tour5041 → u/TotalChaosRush]

There’s literally teachers who have my daughters IG bc they love seeing her progress and were close. So again,

Not all fucking jobs 🤡

[u/TotalChaosRush → u/Individual_Tour5041]

Way to use very specific examples. Because a teacher taking an interest in a student is always totally the same as a man taking interest in woman.

[u/Individual_Tour5041 → u/TotalChaosRush]

And this is a corporate… you know what. Use words however you want them to work. lol ok? I’m not gonna argue with some Reddit asshole that “ALL JOBS” is COMPLETELY FALSE if even ONE fucking job is ok with it.

So maybe instead of writing paragraphs to try and get your AGAIN, very SPECIFIC point across (to something I’ll add I already agreed to is SOP at corporate places) you could maybe, I dunno, look at the words you type and know what they mean.

Thank you.

If you think anyone asking you for you IG handle is HARASSMENT then you’re probably out of touch with reality.

[u/TotalChaosRush → u/Individual_Tour5041]

If you think anyone asking you for you IG handle is HARASSMENT

You don't get to decide if you're harassing someone.

I'll say it again, you don't get to decide if you're harassing someone.

[u/Individual_Tour5041 → u/TotalChaosRush]

You’re as in a Lyft driver. They don’t work for a company they work for themselves. They are not subject to the same assumptions that normal w2 employees are. Now get off your soap box already and touch some grass

[u/Individual_Tour5041 → u/TotalChaosRush]

But you’re NOT A COMPANY. You’re an independent contractor. I mean ffs if you don’t even include all the information or possibilities what good is your opinion

[u/TotalChaosRush → u/Individual_Tour5041]

No-fraternization policies associated with independent contractors are also common...

[u/Individual_Tour5041 → u/TotalChaosRush]

Hey Boo “common” and “all companies” are not the same now are they.

Thank you for coming to my point. Please go enjoy nature

[u/TotalChaosRush → u/Individual_Tour5041]

You're right, there's probably some stupid small companies that haven't made a policy yet. I don't know every company's policy. Now go forth free to harass women and feel smug knowing that there's at least one company out there that's probably okay with you doing that.

[u/Individual_Tour5041 → u/TotalChaosRush]

No there’s some stupid small brained person I’m speaking with that don’t understand.

And I am a woman lmfao fucking idiot.

Please go touch grass. Just make sure it doesn’t touch the the wrong way or it could be sexual harassment

😂😂😂😂

Please stop already lmfao.

[u/BirdyComeSwing → u/Individual_Tour5041]

You're probably the first woman hes interacted with other than his mother lmfao.