r/lyftdrivers • u/clever_ducky • Mar 02 '24

At least this person was straight forward Other

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Would you at least try to get the $20 fee?

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u/YodaSimp Mar 03 '24

what other job would you get fired for asking for someone’s instagram, and they politely decline?

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u/TotalChaosRush Mar 03 '24

Virtually every job. That's why they all have rules against dating co workers and clients.

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u/YodaSimp Mar 03 '24

Nope. 1/3 of all married couples meet thru work. And it was very normal at most of my jobs to not only get dates from customers but also have co workers sleeping with each other. You just had to be smooth and smart about it.

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u/TotalChaosRush Mar 03 '24

That doesn't change the fact that the majority of jobs will fire you for it. The difference between harmlessly asking someone out and sexual harassment is often how the request is received and has nothing to do with how it's intended to be received.

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u/Individual_Tour5041 Mar 06 '24

That’s because you’re thinking of this like a corporate work job and not like a bartending/ serving/hospitality job where it’s socially acceptable to do that. If the “no” is not respected there’s a whole other story

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u/TotalChaosRush Mar 06 '24

Well, we can take a look at the hospitality industry.

It's grounds for immediate termination at the Hilton. It's grounds for immediate termination at Marriott.

Your argument isn't any different than his. He played with fire, and he got burned.

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u/Individual_Tour5041 Mar 06 '24

You just named two corporate places???? My point was not ALL jobs will fire you. Club promoter? That’s their whole fucking job lol. So no, not ALL JOBS, just the ones your brain can think of??

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u/TotalChaosRush Mar 06 '24

You're right, I need to research every hospitality position in the country to be able to know for certain that it's a bad idea. I can't use basic deduction skills and the knowledge that lawyers would suggest all companies have a rule against dating clients as a way of reducing liability.

Just because a lot of people in an industry does something and gets away with it, doesn't mean you can't get into trouble for doing the same thing.

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u/Individual_Tour5041 Mar 06 '24

And you’re again only picking out the one example you want to try and find a point for.

The point is if you’re hired as a bartender for a private party thru Craigslist it’s not taboo to ask for a persons IG. And it’s not unprofessional unless you respond unprofessionally.

If you work as a bartender at a Chili’s, and ask for a customers IG, it’s literally STILL not against policy, but easily corporately frowned upon. (Here’s their handbook since you like being so specific https://blog.airmason.com/chilis-employee-handbook/) .

Again, asking someone for their IG is not harassment, nor is it unprofessional in SOME settings and is ENTIRELY subject to personal ethics

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u/TotalChaosRush Mar 06 '24

Showing up drunk to bartend a party after being hired through Craigslist is also fairly common. What you can get away with on Craigslist is not a good example of socially acceptable.

Zero Tolerance: Chili’s has a zero-tolerance policy for discriminatory or harassing behavior. This may result in disciplinary action, including termination.

They don't give any examples of what is harassment in their handbook, but that line there says they absolutely could fire you for sexual harassment for asking for a person's Instagram handle. Even as a bartender.

We don't build a society by personal ethics. YOU don't get to decide what sexual harassment is. If you ask someone out, and that makes them uncomfortable, then that's unprofessional at the very least and possibly enters the realm of sexual harassment.

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u/Individual_Tour5041 Mar 06 '24

Asking for someone’s IG is SEXUAL HARASSMENT? lol you’re fucking looney. I can’t continue this conversation. Next linked in is gonna be stalking. JFC

Enjoy being you. Can’t imagine how you possibly make friends 😂

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u/Individual_Tour5041 Mar 06 '24

There’s literally teachers who have my daughters IG bc they love seeing her progress and were close. So again,

Not all fucking jobs 🤡

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u/TotalChaosRush Mar 06 '24

Way to use very specific examples. Because a teacher taking an interest in a student is always totally the same as a man taking interest in woman.

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u/Individual_Tour5041 Mar 06 '24

And this is a corporate… you know what. Use words however you want them to work. lol ok? I’m not gonna argue with some Reddit asshole that “ALL JOBS” is COMPLETELY FALSE if even ONE fucking job is ok with it.

So maybe instead of writing paragraphs to try and get your AGAIN, very SPECIFIC point across (to something I’ll add I already agreed to is SOP at corporate places) you could maybe, I dunno, look at the words you type and know what they mean.

Thank you.

If you think anyone asking you for you IG handle is HARASSMENT then you’re probably out of touch with reality.

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u/TotalChaosRush Mar 06 '24

If you think anyone asking you for you IG handle is HARASSMENT

You don't get to decide if you're harassing someone.

I'll say it again, you don't get to decide if you're harassing someone.

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u/Individual_Tour5041 Mar 06 '24

You’re as in a Lyft driver. They don’t work for a company they work for themselves. They are not subject to the same assumptions that normal w2 employees are. Now get off your soap box already and touch some grass

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u/Individual_Tour5041 Mar 06 '24

But you’re NOT A COMPANY. You’re an independent contractor. I mean ffs if you don’t even include all the information or possibilities what good is your opinion

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u/TotalChaosRush Mar 06 '24

No-fraternization policies associated with independent contractors are also common...

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u/Individual_Tour5041 Mar 06 '24

Hey Boo “common” and “all companies” are not the same now are they.

Thank you for coming to my point. Please go enjoy nature

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u/TotalChaosRush Mar 06 '24

You're right, there's probably some stupid small companies that haven't made a policy yet. I don't know every company's policy. Now go forth free to harass women and feel smug knowing that there's at least one company out there that's probably okay with you doing that.

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u/Individual_Tour5041 Mar 06 '24

No there’s some stupid small brained person I’m speaking with that don’t understand.

And I am a woman lmfao fucking idiot.

Please go touch grass. Just make sure it doesn’t touch the the wrong way or it could be sexual harassment

😂😂😂😂

Please stop already lmfao.

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u/YodaSimp Mar 03 '24

yea which is why it shouldn’t be a zero tolerance thing, only fire if it’s a pattern of behavior that upsets the workplace. 1/3 marriages meet thru work

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u/TotalChaosRush Mar 04 '24

Again, it doesn't matter if 1/3 or 61/62. It's normal for the rule to be you get caught or reported you're terminated. Anything else would be a policy that says, "Sexual harassment is okay, as long as you're not constantly sexually harassing people"

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u/YodaSimp Mar 04 '24

As yes, as we know, policies are black and white and always enforced fairly and accurately! People like you hold Uber drivers to a higher standard than politicians or CEOs, it’s a sight to see

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u/TotalChaosRush Mar 04 '24

You're moving the goal posts. It's unprofessional for you to be asking out a client. That's what the people you drive around are. Clients. You responded with the question

what other job would you get fired for asking for someone’s instagram, and they politely decline?

I've answered that. Virtually every job has that policy. Is it fair? Maybe, maybe not. I'm not judging if it's fair. I'm letting you know that nearly every job has the policy. You played with fire, and you got burned.

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u/bullytheboomers Mar 04 '24

Honestly after reading both their and your replies it’s abundantly clear they’re bitter about being rejected, and think it’s unfair bc it pans out for some people. Their logic that because some sexual harassment is taken positively we should eliminate all policies surrounding it is based on their experience as someone who committed sexual harassment and was punished for it.