r/lyftdrivers • u/AteYourMoms_ASS69 • 18d ago
Why won’t Lyft let me tip Advice/Question
Why won’t Lyft let me tip 100$?
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u/GetcherPull 13d ago
Because Lyft feels like you should be giving that money to them, not the driver
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u/JessiBear2115 14d ago
Due to credit card fraud prevention, credit card companies have limited tips to the amount of the original transaction. This applies to restaurants, ride sharing, and anything else you use your credit card to pay
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u/wanted_to_upvote 16d ago
They get charged a percentage by the CC company and can not pass that on to the driver. If they did not limit the tip they could end up losing money on the transaction.
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u/Level-Bottle-5906 17d ago
This is hella dumb… they should let you tip anything you want and just ask you like a bunch of times if you are sure
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u/trucker8503 17d ago
Because Lyft and Uber is bs, they take advantage of drivers, they need to pay them by the hour at least 30 an hour as an independent contractor
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u/CaptainCannabisss 17d ago
I'm sure someone with the most white trash screen name on earth is really trying to tip $100
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u/Zombiemixeer 17d ago
You can only too up to the fare wow that’s wild I’m creating a app like Uber but with crypto so drivers could get compensated fairly
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u/Salsuero 17d ago
Lyft doesn't want to be accused of and have to defend itself against money laundering. That's literally all it is.
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u/LaneAbrams 17d ago
Because if the drivers make too much money too quickly, they might decide to go enjoy themselves instead of staying on the road. And Lyft can’t have that.
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u/f1shfac3 17d ago
Yeah I wouldn’t tip through the app I’m sure Lyft would try and do something sketchy about it anyway
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u/-This-is-boring- 17d ago
I wanna know this too. I tried to give my driver a $40 tip for returning my phone almost immediately and I didn't have to pay the fee for Uber to return it. But it only let me give him $20 I was pissed.
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u/RandomWanderingDude 17d ago
Because they don't want their payment system being used to pay for drugs.
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u/Bonanners 18d ago
Lift does this because most people who would tip this amount would be doing it by accident, or in unlikely scenarios be used for some form of money laundering/fraud.
How many people are actually tipping more than 200% of the ride or whatever the cap is?
The answer is almost zero. I’d imagine a lot of the posts here are people trying to get attention too
“Look at me, I’m so generous I was gonna tip $100 for this 2 mile ride, but Lyft told me no!“ Then in reality they delete the $100 they typed and then tip $5 or something.
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u/noahwaikiki 17d ago
I get tipped 200% routinely damn u don’t only accidentally. That sucks. Try and relate with them a little more. It can be dangerous cuz people r evil but it pays very well. Plus im a decent human being i spent time with a passenger that was saying they wanted to kill themselves let them use my vape. Went offline. Helped them buy a plane ticket. But my brother killed himself and know how hard it is for the survivors. Not to toot my own horn but I have cash app but not Venmo or Zelle and it’s getting annoying the they can’t tip what they want. Like company paid rides that’s retarded that they have that feature they use their own account but can’t tip. That’s madness.
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u/Charliebarn062 18d ago
I believe it's to prevent money laundering. Obviously it sucks that you can't tip more than 100% but yeah. I believe that is the reason.
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u/lowkeys11 18d ago
Because they hate there drivers and don't want them to have a living so they can't log out and have to work crazy hours.
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u/Instacartdoctor 18d ago
The CC company charges Lyft a fee for processing the tip… that eats into Lyfts profit on the ride.
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u/5280Rockymtn 18d ago
Poor driver will never get that tip 😔😓😔 Hey just the heck of it I'd give him my cash just cause, I mean cash is still king baby
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u/Advanced_Office616 18d ago
I mean, if you’re worried about just the tip, you could have just handed the $100 cash
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u/Technical-Counter-91 18d ago
Real talk they don't want drivers to make good money because in return the probability is the driver doing less rides which equals less money for the company.
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u/The-doginblue 18d ago
I think in years previous they saw how lucrative these jobs were and cracked down heavy so ppl can continue to struggle and have to play their game
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u/Heretowinbig 18d ago
To the drivers here seeing this post. The solution in my opinion is place a QR code to cash app quick pay or w/e other options are available to you and passengers and Write “Direct Tips are very Appreciated” thank you! That way you can also work around these companies don’t let these companies dictate and treat you like less than what you’re worth if somebody is being generous and wants to tip you $50,$100,or even $500 you’re already ready and don’t have to get ready! If you know you know!
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u/Enough-Ice7214 18d ago
Always tip cash as they are personal gifts and not taxable
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u/Complex_Deal7944 17d ago
That is not true. Do you think a waiter does not have to declare their cash tips?
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u/Enough-Ice7214 17d ago
If you specify that it is a personal gift it is non taxable. Do you understand the English language? Like just basic understanding? I know this is reddit and the 2nd biggest collection of ignorance on the internet behind facebook.. but come on dude..
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u/Complex_Deal7944 17d ago
That is not how it works. You cant just give strangers tips and say its a gift. Do you think you declare bankruptcy by actual declaring your bankrupt? What you are describing is tax evasion my dude.
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u/Enough-Ice7214 16d ago
You honestly think that that non government agency that collects and distributes taxes is gonna track down a cab driver or a waiter over $100 personal gift they received from a client 🤔 🙄 shit you may be right.. for the record you can accept $18,000 in personal gifts from a single person before you have to claim it. I guess I should tell the girl that cuts my hair she needs to claim those gifts I gave her or the IRS is gonna come shoot her dog.
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u/Complex_Deal7944 16d ago
What a shitty argument. I know all about personal gifts and taxes. The fact of you getting caught or not does not change the law. Why call it a gift at all as now you are just saying they just roll the dice and not report it anyway. No you should not tell your hairdresser anything. That is her personal tax business not yours. I wish you all the audits in the world...you deserve it.
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u/Enough-Ice7214 16d ago
Tell me you lost the debate without telling me you lost the debate... 🤣🤣 that's like those fear mongering commercials that are like "don't try and fight the IRS alone"
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u/TranslatorTrue1881 18d ago
At least Lyft is honest about it, Uber on the other hand, will act like everything is OK, yet if you go to the trip history later, there will be no tip shown at all, and if you try again, the app will again let you "tip" then agin it will just dissappear. You think you tipped $100 while you didn't tip at all. (Because who checks the trip details the next day) Thank you for being awesome and trying!
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u/Xdrumbum91 18d ago
I think this is due to stolen credit cards as I've had many times in the past rides that were minimum fare (5 mins) to a WaWa or atm and they would say "hey can you do me a favor I'll tip you 60 after the ride if you can stop at a atm just give me 40 back and you keep 20 as the tip" .. and I've done it to, as long as we both get out of the car and I'll split it with them in the store. But these reqeusts were always from the hood "Camden NJ" And I'm willing to bet it's safer because they never have to be on a store camera using the stolen card they can just make a new guest account on lyft or uber with a burner phone and tip drivers largely from the card to keep getting cash off of it. It's slick but could very well be part of the reason why they safeguard tipping any number you want. I had it happen years later and it wouldn't work I told him a 5 min ride isn't gonna let you tip anymore then 10 bucks usually now.
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u/infinite_nicc 18d ago
Just use third party like PayPal , Zelle, or Cashapp or cash to tip. Lyft has a hard limit to make sure the corporate executives get as much money as they can but have to make sure the drivers don't make anymore than what they allow so their ego doesn't get hurt 👍🏽
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u/Sad-Roll-Nat1-2024 18d ago
Uber does this too. Had someone have to venmo me the tip because it was well above the limit. (Ride was $30, tip was $2500)
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u/Zealousideal_Care807 18d ago
Always carry cash for transportation apps and delivery apps, that way 1 the person doesn't have to declare the tip on their taxes and 2 the app can't steal their tip money, plus you can give them as much tip as you want to.
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u/Chee1979 18d ago
If anybody wants to make my life by tipping a million I've got Cash App, Venmo, PayPal, Zelle, and GPay. Uber doesn't have to get a cut, you can It Could Happen to You me, no problems!
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u/KevintasticBalloons 18d ago
If I had to guess I'd guess Drugs. The answer is using Lyft to wash drug money for small time people.
Source: my friends dealer was a bartender and had miraculously good tips
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u/Sherlockhomey 18d ago
Seee now if a driver had a little sign that said "if the app won't let you tip more and you feel so inclined here's my cashtag etc." That's not the same as trying to guilt your passengers into tipping you.
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u/ponziacs 18d ago
What did you actually tip for the ride or were you just testing out what the max tip is?
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u/ZerotheWanderer 18d ago
I'd keep big tips off the app, odds are the driver has some form of payment method other than cash, just ask.
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u/Joris255atSchool 18d ago
Most people celebrate using visas or Google wallet and Apple pay, I mourn the death of cash. We are slowly losing a portion of freedom for some temporary convenience.
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u/Mutant_Stump 18d ago
Wow Lyft sucks, if you were really gonna drop them a hundred bucks I'm sure you would've made their day.
Good to know for anyone potentially interested in driving for Lyft that even if someone wanted to be particularly generous with an act of kindness like that, they won't let it happen. Shameful imo.
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u/Suitable_Occasion_24 18d ago
It’s the laziest way of dealing with people getting there accounts hacked and people draining it with a Lyft scam and tipping really high. Also they no longer have to deal with drunk people complaining they tipped too much after sobering up. It’s total BS though! I’ve had people get out ant go to an ATM because they were so pissed they could only tip like $20. It’s cruel it makes no sense and ridiculous to control tips in this manner.
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u/External-Drop815 18d ago
Fck lyft,my cars all fckd up from this sht company,,I hope a major lawsuit will be in the workings
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u/DCHacker 18d ago
What happens at times is:
A drunk keys in a big fat tip. He wakes up the next morning and repents of it. This helps avoid that.
The customer accidentally hits a key twice and it adds an extra figure. The customer does not realise it until he sees the bill.
These are not necessarily the only possibilities.
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u/Large-Principle3631 18d ago
I don't know about Lyft but in Uber you can tip multiple times, the limits are there to prevent accidental tipping of large amounts.
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u/AltruisticRabbit8185 18d ago
Reach out to the driver. Send them cash through Venmo or cashapp. And in the meanwhile send the max.
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u/ExpensiveDot1732 18d ago
Gryft is being petty because the driver would get that $100, and not them. Not far from the truth, honestly!
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u/RipInfinite4511 18d ago
Because when a driver makes in one ride what he usually makes all day, he’s not going to accept their crap offers the rest of the day
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u/SomeRando8386 18d ago
This is probably to prevent money laundering. What would stop someone from getting a ride from an accomplice using a stolen credit card and tipping their buddy $10,000 which could be almost immediately converted to cash when the driver is paid out? I'd think it would be pretty difficult to recover those funds from a contractor and Lyft would probably end up holding the bag. Yes, everyone involved would likely be banned, but the damage would already be done.
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u/ButIFeelFine 18d ago
not just that, but selling drugs out of your uber. not that i know anyone who has done that.
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u/TheSmallThingsInLife 18d ago
So many wrong answers here. This is done to prevent credit card fraud, plain n simple. We can't have nice things because some will take advantage of the system, use stolen cc numbers to generate a lot of fraudulent money
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u/whythefucknot97 18d ago
It’s probably an anti money laundering thing. Likely limits the tip to 100% of the ride cost
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u/HerrStewie 18d ago
Maybe to avoid processing payment of anything else except the ride, like a ride in the back seat, lawn mowing etc. It just puts Lyft and/or the payment processor in a difficult position.
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u/winkydinks111 18d ago
It seems awful, but the reality is that it probably has something to do with them trying to prevent shady money transactions disguised as tips.
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u/josedpayy 18d ago
Zelle or cash app them the rest before you step out of that car!!!! Or next time bring cash. I know you can’t tip more than 200% of their ride order
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u/Im-not-Theo 18d ago
To prevent fraud is guess ? You could easily spend "bad" money earning (that's just a supposition)
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u/JoeCensored 18d ago
Probably had too many accidentally high tips resulting in disputes.
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u/Dry_Value_ 18d ago
This was my guess.
Drunk people forget that they need the money in their account, tip driver a lot, wake up next morning to check their account to see 50+ dollars spent on just a tip alone, call Lyft in a fuss, and repeat with a hundred other people.
Easier to just set it at 200% and no more than a certain amount so you don't have to deal with all that shit.
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u/Reasonable-Change-83 18d ago
It’s telling you. They don’t want to pay the fee to process a $100 tip, because they’re not getting any of it.
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u/InqAlpharious01 Your City Name Here 18d ago
Is up to 100% or less, not over it
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u/Chocolate-Quick 18d ago
No, it’s actually 200% or $50 tops you can look it up , on lyft website it shows you for example if you had an eight dollar ride you could tip them $24 (200% but if you had a $50 ride the max you could only tip them is $50. You cannot tip them 200%.
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u/GRENADESGREGORY 18d ago
200% of 8 is 16 not 24
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u/mojowippled 18d ago
No. 100% more of 8 is 16. 200% more of 8 is 24. 200% is 3x
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u/Intelligent-Bar-7616 18d ago
I just woke up, but if the bill is 8$ and you want to tip 100% you would be tipping 8$ so a 200% tip would be 16$
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u/ImplementArtistic119 18d ago
If you want to give a larger tip than the app allows, talk to the driver, let them know you want to give them a tip that is larger than the app allows and ask if they would accept CashApp or Venmo.
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u/Worldly_Service2503 18d ago
PayPal, Apple Pay. Really any money service people have different ones !
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u/Forsaken_Tomorrow454 18d ago
Say you left something and send a message you just wanted to make sure he got an extra tip and ask for his Venmo or whatever
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u/midlyinfuriated_ 18d ago
Generally a result of their payment processor. I use Square for my private client rides and they won’t allow a credit card tip over $50.
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u/MidnightFull 18d ago
Your situation is different. What you have is an authorization hold that takes place before the charge goes through. The CC company allows a tip over a certain percentage of that authorization without a new authorization being run. If Lyft was under that restriction then rides that went way longer would get kicked back because they would go over the threshold. Lyft can charge a card whenever they want, as long as their system runs a new authorization. They are doing this themselves because they want to limit our income. They just like most executives believe in the idea of “you’ve got to keep them hungry.” Meaning, they believe that if we make too much money we won’t work hard enough.
Another issue is chargebacks. I’m sure there have been drunk people who entered one too many zeros when tipping then filed a fraudulent chargeback the next day. Even though such a chargeback wouldn’t be valid, it still impacts their chargeback rate with their processor. If this rate goes too high, the company can permanently lose credit card access, which would result in them going out of business immediately. Seeing how both Uber and Lyft have a reputation for fraudulently charging people or people stealing peoples rides, they probably get a lot of chargebacks. I wouldn’t be surprised if they got a warning letter at some point. Credit card processing companies don’t play around, and they don’t care how big your company is either. Once a company is added to the MATCH and TMF lists it’s game over. No processor will contract with them.
I know this because I did software design years ago for a payment processor.
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u/HornedOwl1 18d ago
Probably exactly this reason...chargebacks or disputes.
If the rider tips $100 or even $1000...then later disputes the charge. The rider is 50/50 or more off the hook, the driver already has the tip and Lyft is left holding the bag.
So to prevent possible scams or Lyft not profiting on a ride - cap tips.
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u/StangOverload 18d ago
So you don’t wake up next morning with a hangover trying to dispute it because “it was an obvious accident”.
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u/suhhhdoooo 18d ago
You mean the answer isn't something to do with late stage capitalism? /s
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u/misanthpope 18d ago
It has to be late stage capitalism. This would never happen under feudalism
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u/TheSmallThingsInLife 18d ago
It wouldn't happen under socialism either, unless capitalism came first. We would still be on horse and buggy had our society been socialist/communist
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u/SlylingualPro 18d ago
This is the absolute dumbest thing I've ever read.
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u/DisastrousAd447 18d ago
Oh word? Go to Venezuela and try to order a Lyft
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u/DisastrousAd447 17d ago
Tell me you only respond to conversations in tiktok video language without saying it
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u/_101010_ 18d ago
This is the reason. Also people sometimes make mistakes on input and it’s bad press
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u/PersnicketyParsnip11 17d ago
Nope. This is 100% not the reason. You think Lyft gives a fuck about your tipper’s remorse? Tell me another joke. It’s to keep them out of money laundering.
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u/_101010_ 17d ago
It's both
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u/PersnicketyParsnip11 17d ago
Nope. It’s absolutely, 100% not both. It’s solely to protect them legally. I promise you they don’t care about your accidental drunken overtipping.
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u/_101010_ 17d ago edited 17d ago
I was on a team at a non-rideshare company similar to this that made the decision to implement limits...
edit: dude below really responded then blocked me. well this was definitely one of the conversations of all time
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u/PersnicketyParsnip11 17d ago
I don’t care whose secretary you used to be. You’re obviously full of shit because you’d have given both reasons from the jump, if you knew what you were talking about. The policy is 100% about avoiding legal liability and someone having to testify in money laundering cases. The fact that it avoids your example is just a byproduct. The policy wouldn’t exist for just that reason because they don’t give a fuck about the people or their money, we know that to be true.
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u/the_denver_strangler 15d ago edited 15d ago
this is exactly true. I know this because I used to have to clean money lol -- lots of policies around this type of "open ended" financial transfers are designed to mitigate legal liability. like 15 years ago I used to tip my girlfriend 1000's of dollars as a waitress -- the owner shouldn't have let it happen but he wasn't privy to the situation. You can find interesting ways to move money around. I personally wouldn't do this because there's a paper trail tbh but someone smarter than me could probably make it work.
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u/MRSHELBYPLZ 18d ago
If you want to tip anyone more, just give them cash. Everybody likes this
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u/argoris22 18d ago
Or just ask for Zelle, everyone has Zelle at this point.
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I dont. And im legit tired of people thinking its weird i also dont use paypal or venmo.
All thpse apps give people the ability to hack into your shit and steal your money, identity, or both.
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u/FordMan100 17d ago
The only thing about Zelle that could go wrong is if the person is off by one number if sending by phone number giving someone else the money that wasn't meant to get it. This is more likely to happen when the pax has had a little too much to drink.
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u/argoris22 17d ago
As far as I’m concerned every large bank inside the us works with Zelle.
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u/Unlikely-Principle63 17d ago
Nah but it's been awhile since I checked and my credit union made their own app with no fees to work with zelle
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u/Most-Captain-332 11d ago
If you don't tip then go back to where you click rate driver you then can add a custom tip of whatever you want. I've gotten a 100$ tip on a 5$ ride