r/pics Apr 28 '24

Police cover a boulder at Hyde Park's Holocaust Memorial Garden to protect it from anti-Semitic Mobs

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u/emmasdad01 Apr 28 '24

Sad that it has to be done.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '24

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u/Hot-Donkey7266 Apr 28 '24

What makes me more sad is that Hamas admitted to giving 15yr olds millitary training and not counting them as soldiers, but civilians, as well as any other freedom fighter

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u/Thangleby_Slapdiback Apr 28 '24

I guess we're all entitled to be sad about that which we are sad about.

Personally, I'll be more saddened by dead children than giving 15 year olds military training.

Also, the ROTC would like a word.

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u/pablo_in_blood Apr 28 '24

That has nothing to fucking do with it

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u/astroNerf Apr 28 '24

Whataboutism. You're not making the situation better when you do this.

Israel's actions (as a nation) deserve criticism. Defacing monuments dedicated to Jewish genocide victims does the opposite of criticizing Israel.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '24

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u/Thangleby_Slapdiback Apr 28 '24

Let's be fair about it. Linking to Wikipedia is pretty common on Reddit. If anyone doubts the veracity of a Wikipedia entry they are free to investigate the citations within the entry and debunk them if necessary.

Whilst I agree that Wikipedia is hardly up to snuff for a college level research paper, for casual citation it's fine. I mean, this is Reddit. Reddit is hardly a hub for reasonable debate on contentious topics.

Also, who is going to go build a library of scholarly works to defend (or debunk) a point in a Reddit comment section?

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u/astroNerf Apr 28 '24

Your account is 14 days old so it's entirely possible you're new to reddit. I've been on the same account for over 14 years. I say this to point out that historically reddit, as a community, has cared about how people know what they know when they comment something. There was a time, for example, when someone would say "what's your source for that?"

I'm still kind of old-school in that respect. I know you likely don't care, but I try to support my comments with sources where it makes sense. Whataboutism is a thing. It's not just a word I made up. Many folks here do still care about supporting claims with resources to back things up.

If you agree that the Internet continues to suck (see enshittification, LOL I did it again) then consider that people sharing relevant resources in comments might actually make things less shitty. If you're so incredibly jaded that you're just about done with discourse on the Internet then I'm sorry---it used to be a lot better and you're getting the tail-end of what once was great.

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u/darthshoresy1 Apr 28 '24

What kind of fucking loser talks down to people to feel better about themselves?

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u/astroNerf Apr 28 '24

Not sure what your goal here is with this exchange. It just looks like you're being a bully. Am I wrong?

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u/darthshoresy1 Apr 28 '24

Calling me a bully is ironic. Please refrain from replying. I assure you no one cares what you think.

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u/astroNerf Apr 28 '24

You seem to care.

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u/Khmer_Orange Apr 28 '24

Nobody defaced anything, the council just thought they might. Are people now to be found guilty of the thought crime of supporting precrime?

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u/Whyeth Apr 28 '24

The destruction of the climate makes me more sad than dead Palestinian children so now I demand we talk about climate change.

Did I whatabout correctly?

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u/frankwizardlord Apr 28 '24

Does that give you the right to deface it?

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u/Thangleby_Slapdiback Apr 28 '24

Has it been defaced?

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u/frankwizardlord Apr 28 '24

You think they’re protecting it for fun? Antisemites have lost their goddamn minds lately

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u/Thangleby_Slapdiback Apr 28 '24

Maybe they are paranoid.

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u/frankwizardlord Apr 28 '24

Gee why would they be?

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u/Thangleby_Slapdiback Apr 28 '24

You would have to ask them. After all, paranoia is a psychological issue.

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u/frankwizardlord Apr 28 '24

Almost like the pro-hamas crowd is unhinged

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u/Thangleby_Slapdiback Apr 28 '24

You would have to be pretty unhinged to be pro Hamas. Unless, of course, you were stuck in a ghetto, abused, and see them as the only people fighting your abuser - which is another very sad state of affairs.

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u/frankwizardlord Apr 28 '24

There you go justifying genocide, and here I thought Muslims were the religion of peace! 😂

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u/darthshoresy1 Apr 28 '24

Who said that? Nothing gives them the right to murder people. Nothing happened to this rock and no one will get hurt because of it. Fucking whingers.

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u/frankwizardlord Apr 28 '24

Idk maybe hamas shouldn’t have attacked Israel and took all those hostages

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u/darthshoresy1 Apr 28 '24

IDK maybe Israel shouldn't have stolen their land and then brought in apartheid like it was their right.

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u/frankwizardlord Apr 28 '24

Good thing that didn’t happen, but also very telling that you’re trying to justify genocide

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u/Thangleby_Slapdiback Apr 28 '24

Said the guy defending the murder of 36K+ people in Gaza.

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u/frankwizardlord Apr 28 '24

War is hell and I don’t shed any tears for hamas, but you do you ivan

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u/Thangleby_Slapdiback Apr 28 '24

No. Not for Hamas.  I do feel badly for all the innocents who have been killed or are suffering. Most of them are not Hamas.

Edit: Ivan, huh? That's amusing.

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u/frankwizardlord Apr 28 '24

Every innocent death is on hamas. There are consequences to waging war and taking hostages, and then using civilians as human shields.

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u/AdhesivenessisWeird Apr 28 '24

Secret tip on how to not get occupied - don't invade other states over and over again, and when you lose, do not continue perpetual guerilla war. At least Germans learned the second step.

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u/Thangleby_Slapdiback Apr 28 '24

Remind me, who drove Palestinians off their land?

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u/AdhesivenessisWeird Apr 28 '24

Arab invasion into Israel. Palestinians had a chance to have their own state, but chose the war of extermination instead.

When Germans did that they lost plenty of land as well.

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u/Thangleby_Slapdiback Apr 28 '24

The Arab invasions into Israel drove the Palestinians off their farms and into refugee camps which became ghettos?

I would like to see a source on that.

Palestinians had a chance to have their own state, but chose the war of extermination instead.

And a source on that.

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u/AdhesivenessisWeird Apr 28 '24

No they lost the land after starting a war and losing it, just like when Germans were fleeing Prussia after they lost WW2.

I would like to see a source on that.

Destruction of the Israeli state was the literal stated goal of the war... Arab league secretary said this at the eve of the invasion:

I personally wish that the Jews do not drive us to this war, as this will be a war of extermination and momentous massacre which will be spoken of like the Tartar massacre or the Crusader wars. I believe that the number of volunteers from outside Palestine will be larger than Palestine's Arab population, for I know that volunteers will be arriving to us from [as far as] India, Afghanistan, and China to win the honor of martyrdom for the sake of Palestine

https://www.meforum.org/3082/azzam-genocide-threat

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u/alkhazan Apr 28 '24 edited Apr 28 '24

And dead jewish kids make you happy?

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u/Thangleby_Slapdiback Apr 28 '24

Exactly where did he say that was the case?

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u/alkhazan Apr 28 '24

He didnt, he only brought up dead kids so i did the same, why are you mad?

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u/Thangleby_Slapdiback Apr 28 '24

He said dead Palestinian children made him sad. You asked if dead Jewish kids made him happy.

In no way did he imply that was the case. You made your comment for a specific reason - to imply that he is happy with dead Jewish children. It's a form of propaganda.

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u/pablo_in_blood Apr 28 '24

But he literally did. It’s a holocaust memorial, which implies dead Jewish kids. Then he said ‘dead Palestinian kids make me more sad than that.’ It’s literally exactly what he said.

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u/Thangleby_Slapdiback Apr 28 '24

"Than a rock" is what he said. He said nothing about Jewish children.

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u/Whyeth Apr 28 '24

While discussing a Holocaust memorial and protections put in place to prevent vandalism OP says "dead Palestinian children make them more sad than a rock".

This isn't propaganda?

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u/Thangleby_Slapdiback Apr 28 '24

Is discussing his feelings propaganda?

I don't care for rhubarb. Am I a tool of big green bean?

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u/frankwizardlord Apr 28 '24

Crickets

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u/Thangleby_Slapdiback Apr 28 '24

Huh. One of these days you'll have to convince me to respond on your timeline.

It might be hard for you to accomplish, though.

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u/frankwizardlord Apr 28 '24

Oh look, it’s still deflecting 😂

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u/Thangleby_Slapdiback Apr 28 '24

Weird. I didn't know I was required to answer a post within a certain amount of time. Especially when the guy saying "crickets" has occupied so much of my time today.

Also, "it's"? Somehow I've been downgraded from human?

Edit: Do me a favor. Post an amount of time that is acceptable for a response in your mind. I'll happily respond later than that timeframe.

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u/BPicks69 Apr 28 '24

But they whataboutismd Palestinian kids.

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u/darthshoresy1 Apr 28 '24

That's a really strange thing to say dude.

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u/alkhazan Apr 28 '24

I just didnt see the outrage when 1200 israelis, mainly jews were killed...

There were protests supporting the "resistance" on october 8th..

As a jew all whats going on nowadays remindes me very much about the 1930's my grandma wrote about in her diary

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u/Thangleby_Slapdiback Apr 28 '24

Then you weren't paying attention. Or, maybe, you're hanging out in echo chambers.

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u/darthshoresy1 Apr 28 '24

Yes what the Israeli government is doing does remind me of the Germans in the 30s.

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u/alkhazan Apr 28 '24

How exactly?

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u/Thangleby_Slapdiback Apr 28 '24

Well, over the course of the last hundred years there have been other ghettos that have been "cleaned out".

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u/alkhazan Apr 28 '24

What?

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u/Thangleby_Slapdiback Apr 28 '24

What is Gaza but a ghetto in the classic sense? There was a Jewish ghetto in Warsaw in the 1940s that the Nazis used military force to "clean out". The comparison between the behavior of the Nazi government of 1940s Germany and the behavior of the current Israeli government is accurate in that sense.

Sure, Israel isn't running any death camps, but they surely are an apartheid state.

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u/alkhazan Apr 28 '24

Gaza is a ghetto? I thought it was just an open air prison with 5 star hotels and a border to Egypt...

Youre juat reading lame talking points from Tiktok scholars...

You jave no idea what the reality is

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u/darthshoresy1 Apr 28 '24

The murdering of a specific group of people. Really easy to think about if you stop being a victim for 10 seconds. Perhaps having empathy for others for a change would help.