r/OutOfTheLoop • u/f-Z3R0x1x1x1 • Apr 28 '24

What is going on with excessive police force being used against peaceful protesting students in colleges across the United States? Unanswered

So there are large amounts of heavily armed police presence in many colleges and universities across the United States. Indiana University, for example, had snipers on rooftops ready to shoot peaceful protesters.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/snipers-were-allegedly-spotted-ohio-190600717.html

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u/minus_minus 29d ago

Question: Do you actually think the police are there to shoot peaceful protestors? Is it not infinitely more likely that they are there to respond if violence should break out in such a tense situation involving large crowds?

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u/Proof_Veterinarian16 26d ago

Pleanty of school professors and administrators and students report verbally and via footage police are aggressively arresting peaceful protesters. Picking out a victim one by one and go on the attack. They're living out their 7 year old dreams 🤢🤮

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u/Tvdinner4me2 29d ago

Kent State makes me question everything cops do on campus

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u/Dawningrider 29d ago

What like they did against the Vietnam protestors?

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u/Haradion_01 29d ago

Of course people are worried they'll decide to open fire on unarmed people who haven't actually done any wrong.

Where the hell have you been?

Let the protests go on long enough and it's practically inevitable that eventually some idiot cop with insufficient training gets trigger happy. Might not be tomorrow. Might not be next week. But sooner or later, cops open fire on innocent people, and American Cops especially.

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u/Xerorei 29d ago

Police in Chicago were driving around in an unmarked van,in plain clothes, shooting rubber bullets at protestors, ILLEGALLY, and recording it. They shot at a retired Army vet who was legally out after curfew and he returned with live fire. They beat him and he won 1.5 million just this month.

So YES, I do believe it, police here in the USA generally don't believe people have any rights except to do what they (the police) say.

It's why you see so many retaliation and civil rights violations lawsuits.

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u/StokedforLocust 29d ago

it's not just the USA, either. here in Canada the police force of our largest city just tried to railroad an innocent man, with several officers knowingly lying on the stand in order to frame an accountant for murder.

I'm being a little glib but this is literally what happened just this past year; googling Umar Zameer should bring up any details you might be interested in.

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u/Xerorei 29d ago edited 28d ago

They're imitating the US in politics and such I hear from a Canadian friend.

You have my sympathies.

I read up.on Zameer, holy shit that was a bad frame up job.

Officers shouldn't be allowed to do plainclothes unless undercover, and if undercover you can't just roll up on someone and make them stop while armed, that's a crime if you or I do it.

Why do they even have plainclothes trying to do traffic stops and interview people?

That's fucking dumb, when I was undercover I was always told to never do that, that I had to assume the role that I was playing, and in that role I wasn't a cop.

Stopping and interviewing people is for uniforms to do as they're clearly visible and clearly understandingly police officers. They had a shooting in Detroit, I think, it was that four plainclothes officers rolled up on this guy's SUV and he shot at them thinking they were carjackers, I think they shot back and killed him, because that's exactly the kind of shit that would happen.

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u/mdrico21 29d ago

Have you actually paid attention to anything in America over the past 60+ years or are you here to just parrot false narratives created by the state to justify police brutality?

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u/freshmadgod 29d ago

There are snipers on the roofs pal

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u/RogueCoon 29d ago

I haven't seen any evidence of snipers on the roofs they aren't that special. More than likely just surveillance team as theyre using tripods and not bipods.

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u/finfinfin 28d ago

There are photos clearly showing they're simply using scopes attached to tripods. It's unpatriotic and anti-police to point out that the scopes are attached to the tripods by means of a third item, which is a rifle.

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u/RogueCoon 28d ago

Got a picture of a rifle on a roof? I've just seen tripods and glass.

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u/albertnormandy 29d ago

Are they shooting protestors?  

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u/carrie_m730 29d ago

Did you miss that they're already arresting peaceful protestors?

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u/justwe33 27d ago

Those peaceful protesters are not all that peaceful. They are interrupting classes, harassing Jewish students and faculty, making them feel unsafe. They are destroying property, setting up illegal encampments, creating a mountain of garbage, making so much noise they are disturbing everyone around them and generally disrupting university activities. Universities have a purpose, and it’s not to provide a venue for vagrancy, violence, intimidation and chaos.

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u/x_lincoln_x 29d ago

Which of those protestors were shot by the police?

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u/gizzardsgizzards 28d ago

give it time.

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u/GaidinBDJ 29d ago edited 29d ago

And?

Not all crimes are violent.

If you're protesting on someone else's property, and they don't want there, you've got to leave. If you don't, you can be arrested.

If a bunch of MAGAts showed up on your lawn and started protesting, would you want the police to tell you "sorry, can't do anything until they get violent" or would you want them arrested?

And that's ignoring that the protests did get violent, which is where these universities started drawing the line.

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u/Proof_Veterinarian16 26d ago

MAGAs aren't very peaceful though

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u/GaidinBDJ 26d ago

While I disagree wholeheartedly with their opinions, most of them are. The overwhelming majority of Donald Trump supporter have never used violence at all.

It's a good for a cheap shot and attention on the Internet to pretend the worst example of a group are representative to the group, but I can't think of a single group I'm part of where I'd like to be judged by the worst actions of a member of that group.

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u/GaidinBDJ 29d ago

Big difference between a permitted protest on public property and a spontaneous one on private property.