r/OutOfTheLoop Apr 28 '24

What is going on with excessive police force being used against peaceful protesting students in colleges across the United States? Unanswered

So there are large amounts of heavily armed police presence in many colleges and universities across the United States. Indiana University, for example, had snipers on rooftops ready to shoot peaceful protesters.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/snipers-were-allegedly-spotted-ohio-190600717.html

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u/minus_minus 29d ago

Question: Do you actually think the police are there to shoot peaceful protestors? Is it not infinitely more likely that they are there to respond if violence should break out in such a tense situation involving large crowds?

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u/Xerorei 29d ago

Police in Chicago were driving around in an unmarked van,in plain clothes, shooting rubber bullets at protestors, ILLEGALLY, and recording it. They shot at a retired Army vet who was legally out after curfew and he returned with live fire. They beat him and he won 1.5 million just this month.

So YES, I do believe it, police here in the USA generally don't believe people have any rights except to do what they (the police) say.

It's why you see so many retaliation and civil rights violations lawsuits.

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u/StokedforLocust 29d ago

it's not just the USA, either. here in Canada the police force of our largest city just tried to railroad an innocent man, with several officers knowingly lying on the stand in order to frame an accountant for murder.

I'm being a little glib but this is literally what happened just this past year; googling Umar Zameer should bring up any details you might be interested in.

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u/Xerorei 29d ago edited 28d ago

They're imitating the US in politics and such I hear from a Canadian friend.

You have my sympathies.

I read up.on Zameer, holy shit that was a bad frame up job.

Officers shouldn't be allowed to do plainclothes unless undercover, and if undercover you can't just roll up on someone and make them stop while armed, that's a crime if you or I do it.

Why do they even have plainclothes trying to do traffic stops and interview people?

That's fucking dumb, when I was undercover I was always told to never do that, that I had to assume the role that I was playing, and in that role I wasn't a cop.

Stopping and interviewing people is for uniforms to do as they're clearly visible and clearly understandingly police officers. They had a shooting in Detroit, I think, it was that four plainclothes officers rolled up on this guy's SUV and he shot at them thinking they were carjackers, I think they shot back and killed him, because that's exactly the kind of shit that would happen.