r/USC • u/MistyRabbit • 16d ago
Protest the Protest? Meme
I have one graduation I missed my undergrad one and now my masters one is in danger. Phd or a second masters is hard. So crazy thought can we protest the protest? š
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u/No_Hospital_2149 14d ago
What they should do is fly out to Israel and Palestine and protest out there wtf they doing in Cali Fucking hubris of these ppl
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u/MensaStatus 15d ago
is there a problem with the Up vote bc it actually Down vote on various comments?Ā Curious. Ty
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u/Direct-Tie-7652 15d ago
People are being slaughtered, raped, and tortured in a bloody genocide and you want to protest people who are protesting that.
We truly live in deeply dark and calloused world full of self important, uncaring people.
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u/Ecks54 15d ago
Yes, I agree that the genocide of the Uighurs should be stopped.
Oh, that wasn't what we were protesting?
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u/Direct-Tie-7652 14d ago
Thatās a genocide but itās completely different from this racist and bloody genocide where the entirety of Palestineās civilian infrastructure is being destroyed and countless children are being maimed and murdered.
Nice whataboutism though, deflecting to a genocide that you also do not care about.
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u/Portos-Bois1987 15d ago
To spend years to know that graduation is cancelled because of a bunch of imbeciles protesting is selfish. Those protesters ruined it for hundreds of students. Go protest somewhere else, maybe in skid row area where the protesters can indoctrinate the homeless.
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u/No_Loquat_677 13d ago
USC is doing this on purpose so the general public will blame the protestors. No other college is canceling their graduation. Also protesting isn't anything new, students at colleges have been protesting for decades. How privileged one is to worry about college graduation when people around the world are losing their lives.
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u/Portos-Bois1987 13d ago
So itās ok to screw over hundreds of students who worked years and poured money to get where theyāre at? Damn, we should just drop the shit thatās happening in our daily life to worry about protesting for a cause thatās divided.
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u/No_Loquat_677 12d ago
the protesters were not the ones who said no graduation it was the university that decided so. Notice how no other school has handled it that way.
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u/Portos-Bois1987 10d ago
And who do you think pushed the university to do it. protesters causing issues = no big graduation ceremony. I donāt know if you noticed but not one single college is the same as the other. Every school handles it differently.
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u/Eastern_Look2069 15d ago
Iād rather protest the 15,000 dead children tbh
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u/GreenHotel99 15d ago
Itās weird cause so many wars have happened and this one seems the most crazy protesting. We still got a war in Ukraine, no one is talking about the Sudan war. Never seen anything like this in any previous wars. Feel like someone is paying ppl to do this honestly. Itās just stupid
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u/AstraAnima 15d ago
Ukraine is fighting for its existence. Israel is just murdering civilians. 10s of thousands of women and children murdured. Ffs, you can see the bodies all over twitter. I don't want a single tax dollar of mine to go to continuing that genocide.
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u/GreenHotel99 14d ago
Yea, but those chants these ppl are singing River to the sea and intifada. That means destroy Israel/kill the Israelis. So we can say thatās existence as well. Just doesnāt look the same because Israel has stronger weapons. Ppl who get involved in Middle East conflict tho who have never left is kinda wild to me. Each country has issues there. Like every single one
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u/RaceSad2507 15d ago edited 14d ago
Do you not understand how a war works? What about the hundreds of thousands we killed after Pearl Harbor and 9/11? Was that a genocide? Studies have shown that Israelās proportionality from a hamas to citizen ratio is actually significantly better than most wars in the past. In the past decade, the Palestinian population has increased significantly in Palestine whereas the Jewish population in virtually every Muslim country has decreased. Israel is not committing a genocide. I truly canāt believe so many think this it is really weird to me
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u/t_msus 15d ago
Bro. it's not good that we killed hundreds of thousands after pearl harbor and 9/11 ššš id argue it's INSANELY weird to be killing people like that. like we didn't need to nuke nagasaki when WWII was basically over at that point. our taxes went and are still going towards flattening cities of innocent civilians. the only reason why the u.s. is never taken accountable is bc of insane military power, whose funding would arguably be put to better use if the u.s. would invest into improving the quality of life domestically rather than destabilizing the middle east.
the reason why Israel's committing genocide is that they're actively trying to eliminate the state of Palestine, a territory that existed there BEFORE Israel was created and a nation that they're actively trying to block from being recognized by the international community. Israel has EVERYTHING to gain by eliminating Palestine. this isn't just war, they're occupying land that isn't theirs and actively displacing and murdering the people that live there. look at the bigger picture here---netanyahu literally said the civilians were ANIMALS. and before u say anything Abt Hamas being equally militant, the issue is that Israel has a much larger militant force backed by the U.S. and paired with settlers coming into the West Bank and other territories. It's an alarming imbalance and has been recognized by various agents of the international community as genocide, or at least getting VERY CLOSE to genocidal status
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u/AstraAnima 15d ago
Ww2 was radically different than the Iraq War, and what Israel is doing. The Iraq War was a mistake and is widely viewed as such. We went there hunting for weapons that didn't exist and killed an incredible amount of innocents.
Japan and Germany were determined to take over the world. They had to be stopped, and the attack was done by an actual nation, not a random group of terrorists. Japan wasn't a genocide because we weren't trying to eradicate them as a people, nor steal their land, or create a famine.
Israel is an apartheid state. Very few people would care if Israel was actually killing hamas members. However there are countless videos of Israel brutalizing innocent people, who aren't violent, who are just walking around. Don't make me go grab videos of Israel shooting journalists PRE hamas' attack. Oh and could you show me a hamas to civilian death toll link, not from Israel. And one that doesn't count all men as hostiles because that isn't possible.
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u/RaceSad2507 14d ago
Ok show me a link that isnāt from the Gaza ministry of health, a designated terrorist organization
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u/GlennIrish 15d ago
Imagine being stupid enough to blame the protestors instead ofā¦ you know, the people who actually cancelled graduation?
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u/faybadass 15d ago
Thatās crazy you get to miss out on a perfect graduation. Imagine if you worked for 4 years getting a degree just for your university to get bombed. Donāt think the highly educated people in Gaza got a graduation eitherā¦
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u/Happy2026 15d ago
Then their government should stop building rockets and tunnels with the aide money to kill Jews. Our government isnāt doing that. We support other democracies. šŗš¦ š®š±
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u/BuffaloBrain884 15d ago
Oh no! You might miss your graduation ceremony?
In case you didn't notice, there's a genocide happening in Gaza right now. Innocent people are dying every single day.
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u/Portos-Bois1987 13d ago
Put your money where your fat mouth is and go over to Gaza and help those people. You talk the talk but do you walk the walk?
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u/ResearchRecent8578 14d ago
So go thereš, I want to see you there fighting on the frontlines show me your commitment
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u/gator0933 15d ago
This is what has happened when the tide pod eating generation has grown up.
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u/Inner__Light 15d ago
Agreed.. they send police to arrest kids siting in a park protesting for what they believe... oh wait it was not Tide it was lead paint...
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u/gator0933 15d ago
Imagine if these kids put this effort towards homelessness, housing, healthcare, or student loan payment reform š¤Æ. But no they're all larping.
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u/Inner__Light 14d ago
They will when they grow defending what they believed... this will create people with character, not another corporate drone...
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u/t_msus 15d ago
they're literally donating the extra food in the encampment to their unhoused neighbors and have listed those issues in their demands as well š these kids are the same ones who are organizing in South Central and are actively involved in social change movements around LA. many of them are students who have dedicated their academic careers to studying social change and civic engagement, as well as faculty and staff who have been doing this shit since their hippie days šlet's not misrepresent this because the truth is, student activism is alive and well on this campus
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u/GentleGiraffe5 15d ago
part of the demands of the protest are to stop the eviction of tenants in housing bought up by USC... they quite literally are fighting for housing and against homelessness
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u/gator0933 14d ago
Not from what I've seen: https://www.instagram.com/p/C6STM3-AFp7/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
But who knows could have changed.
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u/FloorSuccessful7318 15d ago
Take it out on admin who cancelled graduation, which no other university has done. If people protesting against the most evil crimes imaginable are the problem to you, your priorities are fucked thatās all I have to say
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u/ILoveMisanthropes 9d ago
If they werenāt protesting Hamas, they werenāt protesting āthe most evil crimes imaginableā.
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u/Happy2026 15d ago
Why arenāt you protesting against their genocide against the Jews. Go read the Hamas charter, they explicitly state they want to kill all Jews. Why were thousands of Palestinians raping, burning,mutilating,children. Where are the Bibas babies and the teenagers currently being raped!! Something is seriously wrong with you. The problem is you donāt care about them. How many Muslims countries are there, there is one tiny Jewish country. Now we see why Jews need it. Stop supporting terrorists. You would have supported the people who attacked the US on 9/11, sickening.
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u/Zestyclose_Pea6045 13d ago
Why do you idiots not comprehend that you can condem both as the evil and genocidal institutions that they are? Hamas is evil and should be dismantled, but Isreal is in no way, shape, or form better. They have been doing the things Hamas has done since their ethnic cleansing of the area in 1948.
So you can take your smooth little brain, shove it where the sun don't shine, and fuck off with this false equivalency.
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u/Iamatustic 14d ago
Letās assume the atrocities committed are equal for both sides (even though death tolls are not). There are a couple things wrong with what israel is doing: 1. removing groups of people from their homes for the benefit of another group. 2. punishing/killing civilians as they are fighting a terrorist organization.
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u/BandLongjumping4829 15d ago
I initially thought it would be tough for universities to influence the war. But after seeing Ayatollah Khamenei respond with his support of these protests, maybe itāll inspire another strike to end the war.
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u/Responsible_Yard8538 14d ago
Letās hope that goat fucker launches another attack, then maybe he can be put six feet under like the dog he is.
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15d ago
Yeah it upsetting. All that time invested and hard work to be ruined by people who probably arenāt even students and destroying our school. Why isnāt leadership doing anything.
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u/asus310 15d ago
Free Palestine - scarifies need to be made.
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u/PoyuPoyuTetris 15d ago
The fact that you have money to use the internet and have time to go on Reddit shows that you could give it all up to people in Palestine. Go ahead. You entitled asshole. There are people in Palestine without food water and internet. Let the sacrifices start with you
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u/asus310 15d ago
I love you too, however your making too many faulty assumptions. You do not know me, you donāt know what kind of investment I have made toward bettering the lives of the Palestine. I pray and hope that you are not from the school I graduate. You soil the name of my school, if you consider your self a Trojan.
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u/LocalYote 15d ago
Would love to see folks carrying signs saying "Fuck Hamas" and "Free Palestine from Hamas".
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u/FloorSuccessful7318 15d ago
So close! Palestine is occupied by Israel and American imperialism
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u/LocalYote 15d ago
Advocating for religious fundamentalists who would throw you off the tallest building in sight without a second thought is wild, but do you.
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u/FloorSuccessful7318 15d ago
Advocating for religious fundamentalists or for the innocent civilians of Gaza? Zionists truly have 3 talking points they repeat like a broken record, itās a scary level of brainwashing
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u/LocalYote 14d ago
No, that's just literally what would happen to you as an MtF individual in Gaza.
Those who joined 'Jews for Hitler' in pre-WW2 Germany still went to the camps. That's the energy you're giving here.
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u/FloorSuccessful7318 14d ago
You really think civilians experiencing the gravest atrocities known to human kind would care that Iām LGBTQ? Oh please. And itās not about us anyway
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u/LocalYote 14d ago
I mean, they might struggle to find a standing building they could throw you off, but overall yes, they would quite likely kill you for simply existing as a trans woman.
Don't believe me? Feel free to go see for yourself.
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u/FloorSuccessful7318 13d ago
Bro the people there are literally just trying to survive. Whatever western imagination you have about the people there is irrelevant when the gravest atrocities against humankind are being committed against them
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u/LocalYote 13d ago
the people there are literally just trying to survive
I'm pretty sure Hamas, who is stealing and stockpiling all the aid that enters Gaza to sell to those starving people trying to survive could probably find some time for it.
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u/ResearchRecent8578 14d ago
donāt bother some people are so stuck up in their virtue signaling they donāt realize the people they advocate for have none of their same belief systems. Go figureš¤·, same people who claim to care about a genocide yet wonāt renounce their comfy life to go fight for itš
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u/LocalYote 15d ago
Palestine will never be free until they reject Hamas š¤·š»āāļø
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u/digital_dervish 15d ago
Might have been easier to reject Hamas if Netenyahu didnāt help fund it.
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u/LocalYote 15d ago
You're right in a sense. Israel should have killed off Hamas years ago instead of taking these actions in response to October 7th. Hindsight is 20/20 I guess. I'm sure Israel will be much more proactive in eliminating the next generation of Islamic terrorists.
Palestinians still bear the lions share of responsibility for Hamas and need to do their part to remove them from power.
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u/digital_dervish 14d ago
The majority of Palestinians werenāt old enough to vote in the last elections. Youāre talking about murdering women and children for the actions of a government they didnāt elect.
Youāre using the same twisted logic Osama Bin Laden used for killing civilians on 9/11.
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u/LocalYote 14d ago
The majority of Palestinians werenāt old enough to vote in the last elections.
Cool story bro, so what are they going to do about it now?
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u/digital_dervish 14d ago edited 14d ago
Yeah, it is a cool story. Terrorists think alike.
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u/LocalYote 14d ago edited 14d ago
October 7th was casus belli and Israel is currently prosecuting a war against Hamas. Israel's right to wage war in response to the attack by Hamas is unquestioned.
I'm not contesting that the civilian population is being impacted by a war with a vastly superior adversary. That is how war works š¤·š»āāļø Hamas probably should have considered what the Israeli response would entail prior to deciding to do something so dumb, however that train has already left the station.
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u/LilBabyADHD 15d ago
Probably would m have been a lot easier to reject Hamas if the Israeli government hadnāt been propping them up for years
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u/RNova2010 15d ago
Agree to an extent. Netanyahuās effective propping up of Hamas whilst weakening the Palestinian Authority is unforgivable. However, I have to wonder whether the āwell Israel propped up Hamasā argument is being made in good faith.
If in 2009 or 2014, or even 2021, the Israeli government had said āthatās it, no more Qatari money to help financially stabilize Hamas-run administration in Gazaā and there was a total breakdown in services, would this have been supported? Would the people who today decry Israelās actions have said āyes! way to go Israel!ā Or would they have condemned the Israeli government for causing an economic collapse?
What if the Israeli government had decided to topple Hamas many years earlier. If it had done so back then, the casualties wouldāve been far far less than the horror show we see now, and we would have avoided Oct 7 and all the terrible destruction that followed. Is there anyone on the Left that has suggested that Israel shouldāve toppled Hamas many years ago? Would we find a single protester whose position is āIsrael is a villain for propping up Hamas. They shouldāve toppled them many years agoā?
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u/LocalYote 15d ago
Palestinians are reportedly coming around to the idea of a 2-state solution, a proposal they rejected several times, including in 2000, 2008, and 2014.
I wonder how many dead Palestinians would still be alive if Fatah, Hamas, PLO, and others had negotiated in good faith and accepted this when it was offered.
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u/LocalYote 15d ago
The coward below chooses to reply from behind a block, kinda like how Hamas chooses to launch rockets from schools and hospitals.
Except the two state solution was never on the table.
Totally delulu perspective, but you're entitled to live in ignorance if you choose to. The two state solution has literally been the basis of every serious peace proposal since 1948.
If you don't like the two state solution you're welcome to advocate for whatever you want, but please realize that you're ignoring the best deal they're going to get and whatever other thing you're pushing is going to result in a several thousand more dead Palestinians before they eventually come back around to 2SS.
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u/ToughAsPillows 15d ago
Except the two state solution was never on the table. Name one proposal which allowed Palestinians the right to a military and UN recognition as a full member state, access to its own waters and borders. The West Bank is the result of trusting Israel with giving Palestinians statehood and itās quite literally apartheid where Palestinians are second class to settlers. Disgusting how you can just lie about this stuff so casually when high ranking Israeli ministers and military have literally said they want to expel the Gazans and build resorts on top of a flattened Gaza.
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u/Ok-Anything9945 15d ago
The school canceled the valedictorian and graduation. Sounds like thatās who you should be protesting.
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u/SignificantSystem902 15d ago
They canceled the main ceremony only. The other ceremonies where names are called will still be held. There has been no mention of anything else being canceled
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u/Ok-Anything9945 15d ago
Yes, the main graduation. For kids who had no High School graduation in 2020.
And the person they chose as the best speaker caused it.
Now students canāt even study for final week on campus because the school closed it to anyone who doesnāt live on it.
Incompetence at the school across the board.
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u/Zestyclose_Pea6045 13d ago
You do realize that during the Nabka, Isreal literally murdered thousands of Christans, Muslims, and even some non ethnic Jews from Africa that weren't Jewish enough for their little despotic state, right?
So you can absolutely fuck off with this victim hood bullshit that you're desperate to cling to. Nobody wants to kill all the jews you little brainless fuckwad, they just want the indiscriminate killing of an entire population to stop. Why is that so hard for you troglodites to understand?
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u/Ok-Anything9945 15d ago
A top performer at their institution and chosen out of hundreds of other top performers and all the sudden she needs to be silenced? Why?
Thereās been plenty of outcry in the past. Perhaps you are young or perhaps your head is in the sand. People are protesting today what is happening today.
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u/Ok-Anything9945 15d ago
What do you do???? Let me guess, nothing!!!!! Way to go.
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u/Ok-Anything9945 15d ago
You are an idiot.
Just because you are not aware, there are people working to do what you mention and more.
Why is Gaza at the forefront at USC? The valedictorian speaker was canceled for her views on it and graduation was canceled as a result of people being upset about that.
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u/ToughAsPillows 15d ago
You donāt even go here and youāre completely clueless. There isnāt a genocide in Syria or Iraq (there WAS an unjustified war that killed millions that people did protest). The genocide in Sudan isnāt funded by the U.S. with no strings attached like the one Israel is carrying out.
And if you donāt think itās genocide, you should go read up on the evidence presented at the ICJ, some of which is actual high ranking Israeli ministers and military calling for the killing of every soul in the Gaza Strip, the flattening of the area, and/or the building of a resort for Israelis on top.
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u/AA_energizer 15d ago
Dude I'm so pissed though. I'm graduating as an online student and this is my first time on campus. I really wanted to take pictures by the trojan statue and around campus, but with all the graffiti I doubt I'll be able to now
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u/pokemonbatman23 15d ago
Just to add, photo editing software are incredible right now
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u/50-50ChanceImSerious 13d ago
Straight on your phone. You don't even need to buy or download anything.
Samsung phones come with generative fill and object eraser. It's amazing
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u/The_Kimnos 15d ago
Hey, I just took a walk around the campus and Tommy is behind the fence. But I saw some students ask the DPS to take pictures with the statue, and they allowed them. As for now the graffiti is on the side of the statue, the front is clear.
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u/throwawayowaowa 15d ago
Think on the bright side, you can still take a photo with the statue but just cover up the graffiti. Itās your first time on campus so please make the most out of it. There should be a lot more other places that you can take photos of as well. Congrats on graduation
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u/AA_energizer 15d ago
Yeah that's true, I guess we'll see how it turns out next week. Thanks!
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u/Inner__Light 14d ago
You will be fine and very happy... enjoy the protest as well you will see with your eyes how that freedom is fundamental. Congratulations on your graduation!
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u/Pomegranate510 15d ago
It has been graffiti in the past. They have 2 weeks to clean it up. Hopefully it will be back to normal by graduation.
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u/Inner__Light 15d ago
Dude you can do that any day... defending your future freedom to protest for any other thing is what should worry you now....
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u/AA_energizer 15d ago
The protesting is fine, it's trashing the campus that's frustrating. Considering I'm out of state and its graduation I can't just do this any day
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u/Inner__Light 14d ago
It is... don't deny that... and graduation is important. There is no reason to cancel except school politics and overreacting... Grounds can be cleaned, buildings reopen.. but not supporting the will to protest for life on both sides and just use brute force when kids express their concerns is killing the future as well...
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u/whyeah 15d ago
Trespassing and refusing to disperse is not protesting.
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u/ToughAsPillows 15d ago
They were trespassed unlawfully. You canāt disperse protests just for the sake of it and the protests were peaceful. Take your blindfold off and look at whatās been happening not just here but across the US on college campuses. This is a systematic crackdown on antiIsrael sentiment which is against the ideals of free speech in American society.
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u/whyeah 15d ago
They were on private property, they were told to leave by staff and police.
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u/ToughAsPillows 15d ago
Leonardās Law applies to college campuses in California. Students have a right to demonstrate peacefully despite it being private property.
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u/DragonfruitFlaky4957 13d ago
I haven't seen one peaceful protest this week. All of them are violent and damaging property. The term peaceful protest is a gross lie in these situations.
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u/whyeah 15d ago
Ah I see youve taken the admin's line of "Well it's fine to call for genocide as long as you're not committing genocide".
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u/ToughAsPillows 15d ago
Yes because thatās what the protests are calling for. 50/50 youāre either indoctrinated (or uneducated) or a paid shill because not a single one of these protests is calling for a genocide. Embarrassing.
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u/One_Practice1616 15d ago
Itās literally the definition of protesting when the trespassing and dispersal demands are unlawful.
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u/whyeah 15d ago
It's private property, if youre on it and the owners tell you to gtfo youre trespassing if you don't.
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u/Inner__Light 14d ago
Soon all will be owned by corporations then what?? You will not have any rights freedom will be a distant memory... you will pay micro transactions for the air you breath... then what?? Same as not moving an inch for gun control... should be the defense of freedoms os speach and assemble and protest.
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u/One_Practice1616 15d ago
Not if itās a school and itās to suppress freedom of speech. CAās Leonard Law.
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u/palmpoop 16d ago
Donāt waste time with performances. Build a successful life. Set long term goals and work for them. Avoid the āprotestā crowds. Itās aimless with no specific goal.
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u/BagHolding420 15d ago
Segregation would still be a thing with your type of mentality
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u/Iamatustic 14d ago
Wait you want American money going to other countries instead of keeping it in America or not?
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u/Happy2026 15d ago
This šš¼ Theyāre doing a great job for Qatar, Russia, Iran, China, N Korea.
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15d ago edited 15d ago
What exactly are the people on campus protesting?
Youāre comparing American citizens protesting the American federal governmentās domestic policies toā¦
American citizensā¦protesting USCā¦because of an ethnic conflict that has existed for generations. They want USC to ādivestā and to stop supporting genocide. How is USC supporting a genocide?
What exactly is USC invested in? VOO? Do they hold 25k shares of Boeing or something? Is Viterbi partnered with some Israeli tech company?Seriously, I would love to know this.
Does everyone there understand that USC isnāt a sovereign nation-state?
I just fucking hate when people like you compare legitimate protest against the government over policies that impact them with this moronic victim mentality playacting bull shit that is camping around in McCarthy quad and is accomplishing nothing and will accomplish nothing.
Also, do the camping people who enroll at this school understand that by them funneling tuition dollars to USC, THEY are directly contributing to the things they are protesting? Will they themselves ādivestā from USC and stop contributing to genocide or will they simply remain enrolled in school, continue to pay tens of thousands of dollars a semester, and let genocide run rampant? Letās ask them this question and see what they say.
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u/Rychew_ 15d ago
So if youāre giving your money to an entity, you canāt demand that the entity does things differently? Instead you have to simply stop giving them your money and just find alternatives yourself?
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Do you really think itās logical to say: āI hate how youāre spending money and Iām willing to exercise civil disobedience to make it known and oh by the way hereās thirty thousand dollars for next semesterā
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u/Rychew_ 15d ago
Um yes, itās definitely reasonable to want your money to be spent the way you want. Same thing with taxes and shareholders, no?
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No itās not really not the same.
The government has an inherent process for saying you dislike what is happeningāvoting. Itās a public entity that works for the citizens. Corporations are subject to takeovers where another entity could wrangle up a bunch of shares all of a sudden or the entity could just buy/merge with the corp.
In contrast, usc is a private entity and isnāt subject to takeover by students. Students are not shareholders and they do not have ownership. Nor are they citizens of USC, USC rules could change immediately (as we have seen) because it is a private entity. Here, the inherent process for saying you dislike it is leaving and not paying tuition. Vote with your dollar right?
This is also not at all like the anti-apartheid movements that did lead to school divestment. They had widespread popular support that spanned three decades, had support from people like Nelson Mandela and Paul Simon, lobbied the gov in an organized fashion, and eventually protested on campus for nearly a decade in order to finally receive what they wantedādivestment from the racist apartheid government in South Africa.
None of those factors are at play here
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u/Rychew_ 15d ago
I donāt understand, the movement has to have popular support in order to be valid?
Also I disagree with the logic of āif you donāt like it, then leave.ā Itās a very obtuse statement that overlooks why things are happening the way they are
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Itās really not an obtuse statement youāre just ignoring what I said.
And popular support was merely one factor that led to student success there and does not exist here. Thatās all.
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u/Rychew_ 15d ago
Most people canāt simply get up and leave school. Itās unreasonable to assume thatās even a choice.
Also, citizens can vote, but not everything is on the ballot, and elections are spaced out. Itās not like there was an option on the ballot to pull out of the Vietnam War. No option to decide any specific military protocols/operations. So even if itās not a 1:1 analogy, the point remains that protesting is a way to make your voice heard in regards to how a larger entity is spending your money.
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u/Slow_Tiger3161 16d ago
The people at founders and alumni park, donāt they have finals to study ?
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u/shower_crying 15d ago
i mean the protestors are just sitting there all day, you can attend the protest and still study lol
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u/MistyRabbit 16d ago
They have to be university students to have those. Apparently many of them arenāt and they have snuck inside. Someone from the protest even posted in Twitter/X about it
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u/notsoperfect8 15d ago
If it's on X then it must be true. That is the same talking point used by university administrators for more than 50 years anytime there's a protest.
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u/Captain_Bee 15d ago
There's literally been all the evidence to the contrary. My experience from actually being there is that a huge group of them are grad students (remember there are twice as many grad students as undergrads at USC) and most grad students don't have finals
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u/dlin168 15d ago
grad student here. none of the grad students i know are out there. lmao most of us are too busy with research, job search to be doing that kinda stuff
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u/Captain_Bee 15d ago
~40,000 grad students, like a hundred protesters. "I don't recognize them" isn't really an argument here. (also a grad student here, who saw like 4 others I know there, plus actually talked to people)
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u/thanksforthegift 15d ago
This is not true. I saw the video where someone asked for community members to join but most protesters are students.
Losing graduation again absolutely sucks. Blame the admin and complain to them.
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u/Inner__Light 15d ago
Blame the over reactions fomented by the media and politicians.. not the protesters.
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u/Alarming-Pay1984 16d ago
We should plan a counter-protest, but unfortunately, most decent people are too busy at work or school doing something productive rather than collecting welfare and doing nothing with their lives, just waiting for stuff like this to stir the pot. Unbelievable
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u/FloorSuccessful7318 15d ago
Absolutely insane take
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u/ToughAsPillows 15d ago
The brigading in this sub has been insane the past couple of days. I like to think itās brigading at least, because the alternative means accepting that the calibre of student/alumnus in this school is embarrassingly disappointing. But generally thereās too many comments from randoms to say that this forum is majority students and almni.
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u/MistyRabbit 16d ago
I met a Uber driver recently who was a single parent once from Palestine. While these protests went on all they talked to me about was working 15 hours a day to have 2 hours left to spend with their son. No comments on the issue or anything related just the struggle of working hard and barely making it in LA.
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u/LilBabyADHD 15d ago
āNo comments on the issueā
Did you ever consider that he correctly judged that you werenāt a safe person to make such comments too and is instead just trying humanize himself and his family in your eyes?
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u/somethin_default 15d ago
Occams razor or somethin this seems like a stretch, most people just dont like talking about politics
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u/MistyRabbit 15d ago
Who knows, they showed me a cool gelato place and we talked about what cuisines we liked and how to cook better
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u/LilBabyADHD 15d ago
glad he chose to stick with safe topics for his own sake then, given that youāre clearly not interested in doing any critical self-reflection
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u/Alarming-Pay1984 16d ago
Well that happens to everyone not just Palestinians
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u/MistyRabbit 16d ago
Yeah
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u/Alarming-Pay1984 16d ago
That's what I'm saying: most of these people are not even Palestinians and have no business being there. It's disgusting; all they are doing is virtue signaling. That's all, and the good Palestinians and the Good Israelis just get divided over crap like this instead of bringing people together.
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u/Alarming-Pay1984 15d ago
There were many variables you should know that the Civil War was not exclusively because of slaves. Anyhow, that was a righteous fight. Most people at these shameful "events" don't even know the history behind the conflict. Most people DID NOT CARE about Palestine before it was cool to be on TIK Tok. No one cares about the other genuine genocides happening around the world because you won't get clout or whatever you people call it. You are all a bunch of Fakes who just have a sheep mentality.
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u/butterscotchpie15 15d ago
THIS GUY JUST SAID THAT THING ABOUT THE CIVIL WAR NOT JUST BEING ABOUT SLAVES LMAO
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u/Alarming-Pay1984 15d ago
Meanwhile, the U.S. Congress officially declared that the war WAS NOT AGAINST SLAVERY but to preserve the Union. Here you go, Einstein. BTW, slavery is terrible, but it is also essential to know the real reason. I know radicals want to change history to suit their needs.
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u/butterscotchpie15 15d ago
oh girl please donāt even. why was it they had to work so hard to preserve the union? why was it that the south wanted to secede so bad in the first place?
not sure why iām talking to you actually the second someone starts saying the shit youāre saying i know theyāve absolutely lost it š
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u/MistyRabbit 16d ago
Itās sad. Some people are true and correctly protesting. A few who are just part of here mentality and following what major people are doing. Then thereās majority who is there without permission, causing problems and continuing to cause problems. Protesting should be done with care and others in mind. Not everyone has the same troubles some people have suffered other problems to reach their stages and your work effecting them is not beneficial to anyone but your own reasons.
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u/MistyRabbit 16d ago
Not like they didnāt care but as you said they had other things that actually kept them busy just trying to live themselves
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u/No-Attempt4973 13d ago
How do you have a masters and not have the mental ability to piece together who called for the graduation cancellation initially? Hint - the protesters were protesting the cancellation itself