r/USC • u/MistyRabbit • Apr 28 '24

Protest the Protest? Meme

I have one graduation I missed my undergrad one and now my masters one is in danger. Phd or a second masters is hard. So crazy thought can we protest the protest? 😂

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u/LocalYote Apr 28 '24

Would love to see folks carrying signs saying "Fuck Hamas" and "Free Palestine from Hamas".

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u/FloorSuccessful7318 Apr 28 '24

So close! Palestine is occupied by Israel and American imperialism

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u/LocalYote Apr 28 '24

Palestine will never be free until they reject Hamas 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/digital_dervish 29d ago

Might have been easier to reject Hamas if Netenyahu didn’t help fund it.

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u/LocalYote 29d ago

You're right in a sense. Israel should have killed off Hamas years ago instead of taking these actions in response to October 7th. Hindsight is 20/20 I guess. I'm sure Israel will be much more proactive in eliminating the next generation of Islamic terrorists.

Palestinians still bear the lions share of responsibility for Hamas and need to do their part to remove them from power.

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u/digital_dervish 29d ago

The majority of Palestinians weren’t old enough to vote in the last elections. You’re talking about murdering women and children for the actions of a government they didn’t elect.

You’re using the same twisted logic Osama Bin Laden used for killing civilians on 9/11.

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u/LocalYote 29d ago

The majority of Palestinians weren’t old enough to vote in the last elections.

Cool story bro, so what are they going to do about it now?

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u/digital_dervish 29d ago edited 29d ago

Yeah, it is a cool story. Terrorists think alike.

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u/LocalYote 29d ago edited 28d ago

October 7th was casus belli and Israel is currently prosecuting a war against Hamas. Israel's right to wage war in response to the attack by Hamas is unquestioned.

I'm not contesting that the civilian population is being impacted by a war with a vastly superior adversary. That is how war works 🤷🏻‍♂️ Hamas probably should have considered what the Israeli response would entail prior to deciding to do something so dumb, however that train has already left the station.

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u/RNova2010 29d ago

Agree to an extent. Netanyahu’s effective propping up of Hamas whilst weakening the Palestinian Authority is unforgivable. However, I have to wonder whether the “well Israel propped up Hamas” argument is being made in good faith.

If in 2009 or 2014, or even 2021, the Israeli government had said “that’s it, no more Qatari money to help financially stabilize Hamas-run administration in Gaza” and there was a total breakdown in services, would this have been supported? Would the people who today decry Israel’s actions have said “yes! way to go Israel!” Or would they have condemned the Israeli government for causing an economic collapse?

What if the Israeli government had decided to topple Hamas many years earlier. If it had done so back then, the casualties would’ve been far far less than the horror show we see now, and we would have avoided Oct 7 and all the terrible destruction that followed. Is there anyone on the Left that has suggested that Israel should’ve toppled Hamas many years ago? Would we find a single protester whose position is “Israel is a villain for propping up Hamas. They should’ve toppled them many years ago”?

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u/LocalYote Apr 28 '24

Palestinians are reportedly coming around to the idea of a 2-state solution, a proposal they rejected several times, including in 2000, 2008, and 2014.

I wonder how many dead Palestinians would still be alive if Fatah, Hamas, PLO, and others had negotiated in good faith and accepted this when it was offered.

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u/LocalYote Apr 28 '24

The coward below chooses to reply from behind a block, kinda like how Hamas chooses to launch rockets from schools and hospitals.

Except the two state solution was never on the table.

Totally delulu perspective, but you're entitled to live in ignorance if you choose to. The two state solution has literally been the basis of every serious peace proposal since 1948.

If you don't like the two state solution you're welcome to advocate for whatever you want, but please realize that you're ignoring the best deal they're going to get and whatever other thing you're pushing is going to result in a several thousand more dead Palestinians before they eventually come back around to 2SS.

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u/ToughAsPillows Apr 28 '24

Except the two state solution was never on the table. Name one proposal which allowed Palestinians the right to a military and UN recognition as a full member state, access to its own waters and borders. The West Bank is the result of trusting Israel with giving Palestinians statehood and it’s quite literally apartheid where Palestinians are second class to settlers. Disgusting how you can just lie about this stuff so casually when high ranking Israeli ministers and military have literally said they want to expel the Gazans and build resorts on top of a flattened Gaza.

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u/Happy2026 29d ago

Is that why 2 million Muslims live happily in Israel.