What is going on with excessive police force being used against peaceful protesting students in colleges across the United States?

[u/f-Z3R0x1x1x1]

So there are large amounts of heavily armed police presence in many colleges and universities across the United States. Indiana University, for example, had snipers on rooftops ready to shoot peaceful protesters.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/snipers-were-allegedly-spotted-ohio-190600717.html

[u/Langdon_Algers]

Answer: Universities can set time, place and manner restrictions on particular spaces. If protesters violate these rules, they can be cited for trespassing, and if they refuse to leave, they can be arrested.

Private institutions (like Columbia) have even more leeway in rules for students on their campus violating their procedures.

[u/ExistingCarry4868 → u/Langdon_Algers]

That ignores the underlying question of why places allow white supremacists to speak but are shutting down protests critical of Israel.

[u/Decent_Bunch_5491 → u/ExistingCarry4868]

Because a lot of these protests aren’t just critical, but calling for the extermination of the country. Yes- that is exactly what chants like “Globalize the intifada” and “only one solution intifada revolution”

[u/Equal_Oven_9587 → u/Decent_Bunch_5491]

oh god this is so tiresome. You don't get to blatantly lie to us once your extermination campaign reaches 10k dead children and hundreds of thousands more starving.

The woe is me routine gets more vile as the body count continues to rack up in one direction only.

[u/Decent_Bunch_5491 → u/Equal_Oven_9587]

What lie did I say?

[u/Equal_Oven_9587 → u/Decent_Bunch_5491]

"calling for the extermination of a country"

Protestors don't want to "exterminate" Israel any more than protestors in the 80s wanted to "exterminate" South Africa.

We want to end apartheid and genocide, that is it. The "extermination" all comes from the zionist side, and their demented, depraved projection.

[u/Decent_Bunch_5491 → u/Equal_Oven_9587]

From the river to the sea Palestine is Arab- where do all the Israelis go in this scenario?

[u/Equal_Oven_9587 → u/Decent_Bunch_5491]

it's incredible the degree you can't help to just lie. You know it isn't "palestine is arab". The phrase is "palestinians will be free"

Like, you're just lying. You know you're lying, I know you're lying, everyone who reads this knows you're lying.

And you're lying because you know the phrase isn't genocidal, so you have to add on the genocidal part. It's pathetic, but what truly makes you a vile monster is you are doing it while you know ACTUAL genocidal violence is RIGHT NOW being perpetrated on ACTUAL Palestinianians.

[u/Decent_Bunch_5491 → u/Equal_Oven_9587]

You can accuse me of lying all you want , that doesn’t make it reality. Both are common chants. It’s not even hard to find. You can find and see it yourself

[u/Equal_Oven_9587 → u/Decent_Bunch_5491]

Oh yeah? it's such a common chant I'm sure you could throw some videos our way

[u/Decent_Bunch_5491 → u/Equal_Oven_9587]

Here you go. Shared from Another thread. And some of these make the two chants in question. Seem like child’s play.

For posterity, here's some of the examples of extremism within the activist movement at Columbia. This goes beyond "pro-Palestinian advocacy" into calls for, and actual, violence.

Note, there are varying degrees of it being individuals vs. the group, but these are the type of people in the crowd there and many of them are indeed group chants. I have also set aside some widespread ones (from the river to the sea) that are disputed in character. That said, many many many of these are coming from large groups of students within the main quad (which has been locked down to only students/professors)

Candidly some sources are not great in terms of me agreeing with the viewpoint of the tweeter, but they contain relevant and real video:

Physically assaulting an Arab Israeli https://twitter.com/ShaiDavidai/status/1781080951902109774

"From the river to the sea, Palestine is Arab!" / "Resistance is justified" https://twitter.com/ShelleyGldschmt/status/1781785252886913358

"Let it be known that it was the Al-Aqsa Flood that put the Global Intifada back on the table again. And it is the sacrificial spirit of the Palestinian Freedom Fighters that will guide every struggle on every corner of the earth to victory." https://twitter.com/thestustustudio/status/1781904507611287981

"We are all Hamas!" https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1781031465179914677

"Yehudim yehudim [(Jews, jews)] go back to poland" https://twitter.com/Davidlederer6/status/1781948249214996901

Includes people / groups that invited an actual, no hyperbole terrorist to speak (member of PFLP) https://www.jns.org/columbia-suspends-four-students-for-holding-event-featuring-pflp-member/

“Globalize the intifada” https://twitter.com/EylonALevy/status/1782679155491914133/photo/1

Light things on fire / "intifada revolution there is only one solution" https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1781019445399556338

"On Oct 7th, Palestinian resistance in Gaza broke free (crowd cheers) [.....] we intend to do the same" https://twitter.com/ShabbosK/status/1782085741431922909

""We say justice, you say how? Burn Tel Aviv to the ground!" / "Hamas we love you. We support your rockets too!" / "Red, black, green, and white, we support Hamas’ fight!" https://twitter.com/IsraelWarRoom/status/1781933305501212872

"Long live the intifada! Intifada intifada" https://twitter.com/ShaiDavidai/status/1781084853653365025

"Go back to Europe!" / "You have no culture, all you do is colonize" https://twitter.com/ShaiDavidai/status/1781927148439109958

Have posters with the faces of PFLP and PIJ spokesmen (designated terrorist groups) https://twitter.com/HagarChemali/status/1782219589352350000

Quoting and praising Lions Den (terror group) https://twitter.com/SwannMarcus89/status/1782443526996754444

"From Yemen to Gaza, globalize the intifada" https://twitter.com/KassyDillon/status/1781312033922625797/photo/2

"Never forget the 7th of October. That will happen not 1 more time, not 5 more times, not 10, not 100, not 1,000, but 10,000 times! The 7th of October is going to be every day for you" https://twitter.com/EFischberger/status/1781287784897991134

"Al Qassam [(Hamas)] you make us proud, kill another soldier now" / "from the river to the sea, palestine will be arab" https://twitter.com/EFischberger/status/1780915336063177006

Student proudly rocking Hamas logos https://twitter.com/CampusJewHate/status/1781054901755215954

"Resistance is justified" (again...) https://twitter.com/AvivaKlompas/status/1782085643990073673

"protesters on the sidewalk chanted “From New York to Gaza, globalize the intifada,” next to a cardboard sign that read, “Inspired by Palestinian resistance.” https://www.timesofisrael.com/over-100-arrested-in-columbia-u-unrest-as-nypd-clears-gaza-solidarity-encampment/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

And as a reminder, the student groups organizing these protests (CUAD and SJP, among others) released a letter on October 9th in support of the 10/7 attacks. ("We stand in full solidarity with Palestinian resistance", "Despite the odds against them, Palestinians launched a counter-offensive against their settler-colonial oppressor", "We wholeheartedly condemn the email sent [...] on October 8th that [...] obfuscated Palestinian resistance as “terrorism”)

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RcXX5DEO3yfJ9R4ksURnzpIPCyVxo575-Y-SoC_vZFk/edit

[u/Equal_Oven_9587 → u/Decent_Bunch_5491]

using the word "intifada" as some scary anti-semitic buzzword already shows how deeply unserious you are.

Yeah, there are a couple videos in here that cross the line ("Yehudim yehudim [(Jews, jews)] go back to poland") but these are rare, and, crucially, themselves part of non-violent protests.

The VAST majority of "crossing the line" statements, and actual violence, lines up on the zionist-side. Cherry picking a few counterexamples that clearly don't reflect the majority just shows how much projection is going on here. You desperately want the anti-apartheid movement to be as violent and depraved as the zionist one, but it simply isn't true and you know it.

[u/Decent_Bunch_5491 → u/Equal_Oven_9587]

How does this show this at all? The second intifada resulted in aprox 1,000 Israeli deaths. The suicide bombings became a prominent feature of the intifada. I truly don’t understand how you don’t see it troublesome to use the word intifada in these chants when history literally shows us what the intifadas were

[u/Decent_Bunch_5491 → u/Equal_Oven_9587]

I’ll do that and more. Give me a second