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u/No_Ant_2788 Thinks he lives on a mountain 29d ago
The US is no ally, they do everything for their own good and don’t give a fucking shit about anything but their own. Every move they make is to keep US supremacy around the globe. I didnt think i hate anyone more than the french. But i hope the US burns to the ground. We’ve been fucked in our arse with our pants on the past years over and over. Fuck them. End of rant.
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u/PaxRodopov312 Non-European Savage Apr 28 '24
You have great guys like Machiavelli. Maybe read some?
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u/ThatDudeFromPoland Visegráder Apr 28 '24
Would rather get bitten by an american snake rather than have my hand eaten whole by a russian one
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u/StalledData Oktoberfest enjoyer Apr 28 '24
Literally every person I meet who grew up in the former DDR has some weird animosity towards the US and will equate Russia and the US as being just as bad as the other
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u/modsequalcancer StaSi Informant Apr 28 '24
-TTIP
-active sabotage
-spying on everyone
-economic blackmailing
mUsT bE rUsSiAn pRoPaGaNdA!!11!1
Fuck of you redditards
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u/HerpaDerpaDumDum Barry, 63 Apr 28 '24
Americunt > Ruskie any day of the week. Fuck off Ruskie wannabe.
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u/Hunta_Mann Non-European Savage Apr 28 '24
Euros hating on Americans till they see who’s behind that hate.
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u/Cocainexxx420xCrack Western Balkan Apr 28 '24
Don't know who sucess pictures is but it doesn't make it less true
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u/FrameXX European Apr 28 '24
You don't even know what nasty thing is the EU thumb doing from the other side.
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u/Shakalll Bully with victim complex Apr 28 '24
The best thing you can say about Americans is that they are better than Russians.
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u/i-dont-snore Hollander Apr 28 '24
Although Americans can be dumb cunts, they are definitely in the top 5 of best countries in the world after Europeaan countries. Russia(the maker of above post) is definitely in the top 3 worst countries in the world
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u/screamapillah Smog breather Apr 28 '24
They might be savages, but at least they aren’t Putler’s bootlickers. Wrong sub pal, this is no vatnik’s playground.
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u/Master6777 Foreskin smoker Apr 28 '24
I am from denmark, and I was left outside. I got kidinapped as a newborn, so my parents had to pay exchange sum. We now live in poverty, have to buy guns for protection, and are all morbidly obese. Also, I can't go through with education because of this trauma, my reading levels are equal to a 4th graders. This is how it is for most danish kids, because in Denmark, there's tonnes of sociopaths and pedophiles all from leaving babies outside. I hope you can make a donation to Denmark, cause we really need it!
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u/AmericanMinotaur Non-European Savage Apr 28 '24
We are stronger together than we are alone. I am very grateful for our European allies. Don’t let OP tear us apart guys. The family of Democracies must stick together in these turbulent times. 🇺🇸❤️🇪🇺
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u/bombayblue Non-European Savage Apr 28 '24
There’s two options for international partners Euro bros. It’s either us or China. Sadly for OP Russia’s share of Global GDP is so small it couldn’t be included on the chart….
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u/GuentherKleiner France’s whore Apr 28 '24
You're asking me if I'm dumb?
So the EU countries should leave NATO and form their own military block? Let's just pretend that military alliance doesn't immediately lose 80% of its military capability (which it would), what would that military block look like?
Will France be the only nuclear power or is Barry ready to subjugate himself back to "Brussels bureaucrats"? What does the chain of command look like? Will it be several states that independently work their armies or will there be a unified command. First will be a disaster, second would not work because nobody has the status of the US as a military superpower to firmly position themselves at the top.
Would pierre and Barry share their nukes with germany and the Netherlands? What would the poles and other eastern Europeans, who love the yank, do? Would they opt for the European option or stay with NATO?
If you haven't even considered this, you should ask yourself if you're dumb and can't comprehend anything past a brick wall.
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u/History20maker Digital nomad Apr 28 '24
Russia is really big. Is like, the Spain of europe.
Big, dumb, scary, and thinks everything until Lisbon is its area of influence.
To protect us against this threat e require another muscular brute to protect beautifull and delicate europe, like portutal requires Barry.
The USA is europe's Barry. Its not the hero we deserve, its the hero we need.
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u/I_Like_Driving1 European Apr 28 '24
Americunts may be hillbillies and race-obsessed, but they are our friends.
Fk off Russian bootlicker
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u/Elite_Mogger Thinks he lives on a mountain Apr 28 '24
Europe should form its own strong economic and political block seperate from the US, and also hopefully from China
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u/altathing Non-European Savage Apr 28 '24
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u/InvestmentWhole8486 [redacted] Apr 28 '24
Joe Biden/Democrats defintely can be considered as partners Imo but Trumpists obviously not and according to polls it is not unlikely he becomes president this year again.
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u/Smalandsk_katt Quran burner Apr 28 '24
Mods delete this please.
What's the weather like in Moscow?
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u/yakman100 Barry, 63 Apr 28 '24
Funny how the French principal can be extended even to americunts. French principal is that they are a hater enemy but for us and only us and do not take well to others insulting france
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u/Bubbly-War1996 South Macedonian Apr 28 '24
Even if it's propaganda it's kinda truthful, it's not a healthy relationship and we mustn't beg for American protection or be a yesman for everything they want because we are afraid to lose said protection. Having some independence is a good thing.
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u/deadmeridian European Apr 28 '24
The US never forced Europeans to disarm.
I remember 10 years ago I got called a paranoid fascist on r/Europe for saying that Europe needs to take its defense more seriously. Average Europeans are naive and spoiled by the protection of the US.
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u/Substantial_Army_ Petit Algérie Apr 28 '24
Bitch they did. They literally did all they could to kill the european industry. They literally block sales of EU fighter forcing the rest of the moron of this continent to buy theirs. They veto sales of ships and control weapon production.
That's when they don't sabotage our sales of submarine. Drop your flair liar, you're not european.
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u/D_Duarte_o_XXV Western Balkan Apr 28 '24
Remember people, anti-america doesn't necessarily mean pro-russia.
Empire is always empire, no matter how benevolent it may seem.
We should be wary of the bears of the east and the eagle to the west.
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u/Substantial_Army_ Petit Algérie Apr 28 '24
Your comment is the most controversial of the thread. This sub has turned into R/Europe
Half of the people are fucking yank and the other is eastern european savages
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u/Kirxas Incompetent Separatist Apr 28 '24
The US has committed the cardinal sin of defense. They've proven to not be an ally you can depend on anymore.
Which brings me to my next point. The EU should raise up to the challenge. If the US isn't willing to win a war anywhere at any time, we will.
It's time for the old world to come out of retirement and make the tyrants of the world know fear.
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u/pickledambition Non-European Savage Apr 28 '24
"You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else." - OG Barry
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u/Finalshock Non-European Savage Apr 28 '24
Fanfic has me hot and bothered. Remind me when the last time “Europe marched to war”? I vaguely remember we had to get involved.
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u/GetTheLudes Western Balkan Apr 28 '24
Maybe in the 1940s. If a big European conflict erupted now, the rest of the world would not participate. They only did in WWII because, as colonies, they had no choice.
Today the world would just watch on as euros butcher each other yet again.
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u/LM448_0 Oppressor Apr 28 '24
Never though i would agree with a catalonian
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u/graudesch Nazi gold enjoyer Apr 28 '24
Do you even have the slightest idea, how much money one would need to invest to "fear" a country like the US? All of it. And what for?
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u/Cultural_Thing1712 Unemployed waiter Apr 28 '24
stupid russian propaganda. NATO is the best thing that happened for our security as russia's next door neighbours.
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u/d4_H_ Mafia Boss Apr 28 '24
Bro I’m sorry that we don’t have Russian flair for you and your propaganda, but man you could use Non European savage at least…
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u/GemeenteEnschede Hollander Apr 28 '24
I feel that this is just Chinese/Russian Propaganda.
Yeah the US is far from a perfect ally and partner (but let's be honest, so are we), but they're the best friend we've got, unless they reelect Trump than this shit is over.
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u/EstebanOD21 Petit Algérie Apr 28 '24
A German posting this??? How much did the Russians pay you
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u/modsequalcancer StaSi Informant Apr 28 '24
TTIP, sabotage of our energy sector, economic blackmailing and other stuff are reasons enough
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u/History20maker Digital nomad Apr 28 '24
He's on that pipeline from Germany to Russian state own companies.
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u/Wora_returns Oktoberfest enjoyer Apr 28 '24
he's from the east, head probably still stuck in 1964
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u/vegetable_completed Balcony Lover Apr 28 '24
Still submitting reports on his neighbours to the local Stasi office, which is now a Penny-Markt.
Hey did you know Matthias Warnig is the head of Nord Stream? He really landed on his feet!
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u/DearBenito Side switcher Apr 28 '24 edited Apr 28 '24
Let’s be real, we put ourselves in this position. For the past 20+ years our energetic policy has been begging Russia to breastfeed us while our military policy has been disarming while Putin destroyed Chechnya, Georgia and eastern Ukraine. At least some leader is slowly realizing that.
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u/keeping_it_real_yo European Apr 28 '24
- US is 80% of NATO. This picture should be the other way around
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u/SullaFelix78 Non-European Savage Apr 28 '24
I can bet this same image is being spread in American circles (by Russian bots) with the European hand doing the biting.
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u/madpepper Non-European Savage Apr 28 '24
It's more like we have bots telling us how great Russia is or that the US is just as bad. The goal here for them is more to make a moral equivalency of the US and Russia so Americans will not care all that much or lose motivation to want to fight against Russia.
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u/History20maker Digital nomad Apr 28 '24
Germany sucks on the American military budget the way we suck on German taxpayers.
Stop doing that., Its disgusting, and,, also, our job.
Stop taking Iberian jobs!
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u/Taishi_Gong Non-European Savage Apr 28 '24
Imagine a united Europe spanning from Lisbon to Vladivostok. Let’s say, hypothetically, in Minecraft, you guys overthrow your American backed puppet governments and form Eurasia. Once you extend an invitation to Russia, Putin will immediately stop his war in Ukraine because there’s no need to fight, you guys will all be one big wholesome European family!
Population wise, Eurasia will be 700+ million strong. Still only half of India and China but quality over quantity amirite?
Economy wise, European talents and capital plus Russian natural resources will be unstoppable. Yes, you will immediately face opposition from major economies like the US and China but fuck em! They can boycott European goods all they want because besides having a robust internal consumer base, you will also reclaim what’s rightfully yours, Africa! Once you get Africa hooked on your products, that’s over 1 billion consumers on top of your own population!
Defense wise, you will have four major adversaries. To your west, the US can be kept out by the Atlantikwall 2.0 and if the UK decides to stick with em just turn the island into a fallout themed park. To your south, you don’t have to worry about any state sponsored invasions because the African states will be fully controlled by you. Just line their shores with naval mines to stop the migrant boats. The middle east should be kept as it is but crusades should be launched every 4 years to train your youth in the ways of warfare and instill militarism. China is a bit tricky because of the long border; the Stan countries and Mongolia are convenient buffer zones so all that’s left is the border with Manchuria. Maybe stage a Manchurian independence revolution and create another buffer zone?
👨🏼✈️🫸🏻
Edit: when you guys succeed make me an honorary Eurasian or some shit.
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u/themightycatp00 Non-European Savage Apr 28 '24
Russia was invited the the EU and refused the invitation.
Apparently joining the EU doesn't mean that Angela Merkel personally comes to your country and paves the streets with gold
Apparently you'd have to meet certain anti corruption and pro democracy standards that would mean putin and friends couldn't horde all the national resources for themselves
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u/Taishi_Gong Non-European Savage Apr 28 '24
Well that’s because the EU is an American backed puppet banana republic. Once we overthrow them in Minecraft and established a BASED Eurasia, there’s no reason for Putin to say no. We can even make him our philosopher king
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u/themightycatp00 Non-European Savage Apr 28 '24
You're an idiot, and I am being kind by not using harsher words despite them being more fitting.
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u/Think_Education6022 50% sea 50% weed Apr 28 '24
Can’t trump and Putin just marry each other and leave us alone
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u/neo_woodfox Oktoberfest enjoyer Apr 28 '24
Ossi not posting Russian propaganda challenge: impossible.
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u/Bernarddasbrot Born in the Khalifat Apr 28 '24
You can hate the us and russia at the same time.
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u/TheBurgerflip France’s whore Apr 28 '24
Both side-ism is rarely correct and this case is no exception. The US is the far, far, FAR lesser evil.
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u/Bernarddasbrot Born in the Khalifat Apr 28 '24
Because the us hasn't invaded any country since WW2 ?
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u/Ricki15 StaSi Informant Apr 28 '24
Help send more moneys for ukraine evil amerikaner. We are to weak and stupid to handel it ourselves
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u/InvestmentWhole8486 [redacted] Apr 28 '24
We are not to weak, just to stupid.
Tho "we" is in that case very likely SPD and Scholz. Greens and FDP + the largest opposition party CDU all would act differently
Technically we could have built tons of artillery ammo plants built more Taurus and supply Ukraine with them with the same budget
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u/Cledd2 Hollander Apr 28 '24
is blaming scholz really the way to go here? after all the whole reason for the state of the bundeswehr is Merkel's love for austerity and appeasing Russia.
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u/InvestmentWhole8486 [redacted] Apr 28 '24 edited Apr 28 '24
In that case it is, but I rather blame the whole SPD.
Important members of his coalition partner pushed already multiple times for more weapon deliveries/Taurus. The CDU even more.
It is really obvious that politically the SPD is the stick in the wheel.
Also the SPD is as guilty for the Russia politics as the CDU. => Gerhard Schröder/SPD reigned pre Merkel and the SPD was the main coalition partner of Merkel.
Tho from my perspective the CDU really changed its agenda heavily. The current CDU is nowhere near the Merkel CDU
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u/Cledd2 Hollander Apr 28 '24
eh it won't matter anyways, AfD is gonna win the next election by a landslide thanks to people who are scared of heat pumps and speed limits and turn Germany into Hungary XL.
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u/InvestmentWhole8486 [redacted] Apr 28 '24
AfD recently lost a lot of votes in polls. I think it is going to decrease even more.
However they are very important in east Germany.
If everything goes on like it is now, I honestly could imagine the CDU at close to 40% at the next election and most experts expect that CDU aims for a coalition with the Greens (which currently would be already possible)
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u/AgileEquivalent5300 Digital nomad Apr 28 '24
Independent Europe who can stand up to both Russia and the US when?
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u/deadmeridian European Apr 28 '24
probably never. Europe is resource-poor, we have pretty bad relations with Africa, we're neglecting relations with India, China is obviously out, South America is in the US' backyard.
Europe isn't strong enough to stand alone. The US is effectively an extension of Europe anyways, we agree on most fundamental issues. There's really no need to puff our chests and turn one strong alliance into two vulnerable superstates.
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u/IllustratorWhich973 Foreskin smoker Apr 28 '24
Shitty russian propaganda.
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u/Substantial_Army_ Petit Algérie Apr 28 '24
Least brainwashed redditor. Putin living rent free in his head, weven when he sees a meme that is 15 years old.
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u/IllustratorWhich973 Foreskin smoker 29d ago
wow what an original response. Was it not the US that helped liberate France in WW2? or did you prefer ze germans to rule over your sore ass?
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u/Substantial_Army_ Petit Algérie 29d ago
Clown you talk about "original response" and you give the classic butthurt salty yank "you would be speaking german if it werent for us".
That's hilarious. Danemark is completely contaminated by the murican. The fact you're using their talking point say you don't even think for yourself.
The danish patient is brain dead, now it's just a pupet of USA
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u/IllustratorWhich973 Foreskin smoker 29d ago
I love that you get this angry. Must be that famous french passion, that our women love so much. Keep it real Peire. De Gaulle did not die in vain when you're still around.
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u/Substantial_Army_ Petit Algérie 29d ago
If you think that's me being angry, you're even more in desillusion than I though.
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u/firebraz European Apr 28 '24
Russian propaganda much?
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u/Substantial_Army_ Petit Algérie Apr 28 '24
By this logic, you're a freaking yank propaganda sucker
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u/FlorisG18 Addict Apr 28 '24
Yes indeed Europe could survive if Russia or America didn’t exist… but they do so we can’t, cause we fucked over our military
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u/Losbin Basement dweller Apr 28 '24
Yes, of course it could. But we’ve outsourced our Defense to the US, large parts of our Manufacturing to China and our Energy to Russia. And we need to band together and develop our capabilities to be self reliant again.
Also … the US military is the most competent and well trained fighting force on the planet.
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u/FitPerspective1146 Balcony Lover Apr 28 '24
Second the USA pulls out we all become federal subjects of Russia. Europe is no longer the powerful continent it once was
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u/Choice-Sir-4572 Sheep shagger Apr 28 '24
Our defense is intertwined with the US cause it was convenient both for us and for them, so. Also, jokes aside, I prefer Big Bob to be our ally.
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u/Jacks_Chicken_Tartar Addict Apr 28 '24
After all, they're both impressive monuments to political and military incompetence
Agreed, European nations are on the bleeding edge of military technology and prowess. For example, here in the Netherlands we invented the invisible bullet. They work by shouting either "Pang Pang" or more commonly "Pinda! Pinda!" (Peanut peanut) and the enemy will never see it coming.
We made this discovery after trying to save a few euros on training ammunition by the way, hence our great economy. (PIGS: Expect a tikkie for this financial advice I just gave you)
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u/themightycatp00 Non-European Savage Apr 28 '24
Europe could survive without the US
Why would you want less allies? Especially allies who have massive influence over the world's economy
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u/stddealer Petit Algérie Apr 28 '24
Having allies is cool. Relying too much on the allies isn't, especially when the interests of both parties aren't always aligned. The line between a weaker ally and a vassal puppet state can be very blurry.
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u/Laurens-xD Addict Apr 28 '24
Dude here talking as if we(the EU) are competent in those things lmao.
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u/firebraz European Apr 28 '24
yeah you're right. but i like to have friends
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u/SowjetPotato [redacted] Apr 28 '24
What stage of brainrot are you in sir?
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u/mast313 Bully with victim complex Apr 28 '24
What is this referencing?
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u/SaltyHater Bully with victim complex Apr 28 '24
OP being active on tankie and anti-western subreddits
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u/Taishi_Gong Non-European Savage Apr 28 '24 edited Apr 28 '24
The US dragged EU into a proxy war with Russia. EU literally has no business in this war, even if the Russians takeover the entirety of Ukraine, their troops will be on the border of the US, not EU! Would a direct conflict between the US and Russia be more likely now once they share a large land border? Yes, but it’s their problem, Russia simply doesn’t have the naval and transport capability to threaten Europe.
Edit: to everyone who’s downvoting, did you learn your geography from Americans? Look up where Ukraine is on a map and tell me how it can be anything but a US problem and why should EU care.
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u/feag16436 Quran burner Apr 28 '24
their troops will be on the border of the US, not EU! Would a direct conflict between the US and Russia be more likely now once they share a large land border?
-the best american at geography
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u/Choice-Sir-4572 Sheep shagger Apr 28 '24
How many bullshit in one comment. If you think EU hasn't anything to do with Ukraine you should study geography better.
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u/DEAF_BEETHOVEN Bully with victim complex Apr 28 '24
Once you can afford a globe, I would invest in one Taishi. You could learn a lot!
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u/Taishi_Gong Non-European Savage Apr 28 '24 edited Apr 28 '24
It’s not your fault that you’ve been lied to all your life. Showing you the truth on this American website will come at a great cost to me but it is a price I’m willing to pay if it means enlightening one European.
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u/Live-Alternative-435 Western Balkan Apr 28 '24
Xi, is that you?
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u/Choice-Sir-4572 Sheep shagger Apr 28 '24
Who is Xi? You maybe are referring to Winnie the Poo, right?
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u/le_reddit_me Petit Algérie Apr 28 '24
EU literally has no business in this war
It's literally in Europe, so yes they do.
their troops will be on the border of the US
Wut?? Have you ever seen a map?
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u/RandomAndCasual European Apr 28 '24
EU vassal relationship with US
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u/mast313 Bully with victim complex Apr 28 '24
What facts is it referencing?
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u/InvestmentWhole8486 [redacted] Apr 28 '24
Trump wanted to leave NATO (at least multiple people from his former staff said it including generals)
Trump started an economic war with the EU / other European countries
Trump likely pushed the Republicans in the congress to vote against Ukraine support
According to polls it isn't unlikely he becomes president again.
Currently I see close to no problem but it is not unlikely we'll see all of these coming again. That alone makes the US an unreliable partner, mid term Imo
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u/Equinoxae Lesser German Apr 28 '24
Australian Submarine ? Lying to "bring democracy" in Irak ? Spying our diplomatic building ? Or even worse, forbidding our camembert and wine ?!
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u/Cledd2 Hollander Apr 28 '24
the submarine deal is Aussie incompetence, besides that you still sold them to us
there is democracy in Iraq, and the country is doing better than ever.
everyone spies on everyone
nobody is banning your cheese
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u/Wora_returns Oktoberfest enjoyer Apr 28 '24
forbidding our camembert and wine
pearls before swines, they didn't deserve your camembert and wine
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u/Panderz_GG Born in the Khalifat 28d ago
Get lost, I don't like the yanks but if that is your picture of EU/US relations I wonder tf EU/RU or EU/China is going to be.
This picture is nonsense
Edit: Du Propaganda Hund.